In a way yes. Games are more exciting if your pulling for someone. I am lukewarm to both these teams. But now I'll be rooting for the Angels to overcome a difficult situation. I think this kind of makes them the underdog. At least to me it does.

To be fair, if the roles were reversed I would be firebombing mlb's office

Like I said, I hate the way this is going down.

Josh Paul. That's why they lost. Josh Paul. It was obvious that he trapped it... he should have tagged AJ to be sure. That's what catchers who play regularly do.

I'll say it again... in no circumstance does a third string anybody make a positive contribution in the playoffs. That was the gamble Mike S. made when pinch-running for Jose Molina. What's Josh Paul doing on their playoff roster anyway?

What are these games you guys are talking about. Don't you realize that the baseball season is over once the Yankees and Redsox stop playing.

Right now, the alternate-MLB is prepping for game three of Red Sox-Yankees III. (Each swept their ALDS set.) I think Papelbon is being pressed into emergency service to start against Mussina....

And Spade is 100% right... that call DID NOT end the game. Escobar still served up a 0-2 meatball to the #8 hitter.

You have to pitch over "bad" calls. It's part of the game. The way Buehrle was dealing, he'd have come out for the 10th and the Sox win in the next inning over the immortal Kevin Gregg.

I don't care really who wins...I suppose part of me would like the Angels to. I haven't watched any games of this series, but if they've been the victims of bad calls I can't feel too sorry for them. There's a good chance they wouldn't still be playing if a few close calls had gone the other way in the Yankees - Angels series.

I didn't say "the Angels could protest the game under Major League rules". I say "the Angels could make it ugly." Big difference.

Jesus. Are White Sox fans trying to be the next version of Red Sox fans?

exactly. end thread.

If your piece of shit Bears don't beat the Ravens I'm going to send you a turd in the mail.

let us get past the those silly vikings first

Sorry, got my weeks mixed up. I better put this log back in the fridge for safekeeping.

first, off, I'm a lifelong angels fan. That being said, I have one comment to make. Its not that I think the Angels would have (or would not have) won that game. Its that the oppurtunity for them to win was taken from them by the bad call. Sure Spade Kitty could be right about the Angel pitchers, they very well may have gone three up three down in the next inning, then give up a game winning homerun. Then again, they are the best bullpen in the league, so its definitely no forgone conclusion.

the problem is the Eddings gave the benefit of the doubt to a runner who struck out, who he called out, who ran out of the base line, after he himself left the proper position, to virutally end a playoff game. then lied about it after ward. and yes he lied, you can tell he knew he was wrong in that press conference, they all did. he was so unconvincing, and defensive.

and I'm sorry, biased or not, the call was flat out wrong. The ball changed direction? yep, sure did. IN HIS GLOVE. look at the side angle shot, there is no way that ball hit the ground where you see it move. you see dirt come up? yup, me too. the glove webbing hits the ground, you can see it fold over forward, by the way, not backward. there is no physical way that ball hit the ground. I had a damn good view in hidef on my 50" hidef plasma.

I'm willing to admit, if a call I thought was wrong turns out to be the right call. this is not one.

And spade kitty, you said something that I liked a lot. Winning this way sucks for the White Sox. Its an asterix on the win. If they win the series, they shouldn't have, if they lose, they should have lost more, and the angels had to win one more game, then they are more tired for the WS.

Angels fans are still hurting about donnie moore giving up that homerun in 86, and that's something the angels themselves controlled. The Red Sox are still hurting for Bill Buckner's gaffe later that year in the WS (now that's Karma for you!.. still bitter angel fan, sorry). But again, that's something a player did. There are bad calls all the time, but how many have this type of an effect? for both teams really.

the reality is, it just won the series for the Angels, there is no way they are going to take this lighlty, and will react quite well to it.

thanks eddings!

You have reached my level of comedy sir.

Damn, I was actually out doing my lawns all morning and missed this brilliance?

Fuck.

Spade schooled all you cocksuckers. Move on.

I'd say "Raiders" instead of "Red Sox" if you don't mind a intra-sports comparison.

But you know...to-MAY-to, to-MAH-to.

why is every non-Sox fan all of a sudden an Angels apologist anyway

I guess because what's right is right.

yeah there's absolutely no culpability in anyone other than the umpire here.

not on Josh Paul for making a tag many other catchers make, just in case.
not on Escobar for hanging an 0-2 meatball to a no. 8 hitter

Paul caught the ball but he should've tagged Pierzynski. I don't know how many times I've seen Varitek do this during the season (And don't start yelling at me for bring up the Red Sox again, I'm just making a point). I think the blame goes 50/50 between the ump and Paul.

That said, Spade "I invented baseball" Kitty is a douche.

That has nothing do with the bad call. It was a ridiculously bad call. It strongly affected the outcome but did not make the outcome. It's alot different game when 1 team gets 4 outs instead of 3.

you guys are acting as though bad/wrong calls never happen. they probably happen at least once or twice a game. this is just magnified because it's a playoff game. one man's perception of the strike zone may be different than another. you may believe an outfielder caught a ball whereas another think he trapped it. it happens when human beings are making judgement calls + no instant replay. get over it. and yes if he did get called out then joe crede never would have been able to double home the winning run. but he didn't, and the angels gave up a stolen base + the game winnning double. bad/wrong calls happen all the time. good teams get past them.

and i'm a cubs fan who hates the white sox.