Best Album Of...(Volume 24)

puma · **Posted:** Thu Dec 15, 2005 2:41 pm

the ramones.

Dick Meatwood · **Posted:** Thu Dec 15, 2005 2:50 pm

paladisiac Wrote:

maybe i'll have an old college buddy of mine share his ramones stuff and try again. it's been a few years -- maybe i was high on markers.

The first three songs on their first album should be enough for you to decide on.

Spade Kitty · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:49 am **Posts:** 4401

Really surprised I'm the only Bowie vote so far

IT'S NOT THE SIDE EFFECTS OF THE COCAINE....I'M THINKING THAT IT MUST BE LOVE....ITS TOO LATE! TO BE HATEFUL! ITS TOO LATE! TO BE LATE AGAIN!

those strung-out interviews from that period are hilarious

Spade Kitty · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:49 am **Posts:** 4401

also, anyone who loves Station to Station and hasn't heard Stage should really hear the live version of the title track. Adrian Belew just kills on lead guitar

mcaputo · **Posted:** Thu Dec 15, 2005 2:58 pm

Quote:

You do know the story about Ry claiming that The Glimmer Twins ripped him off on all those riffs from the Beggars Banquet through Sticky Fingers period, right? His assertion is that he auditioned to be their guitarist after Brian got sacked and that the Stones secretly taped the jams and then stole his ideas---mainly "Jumping Jack Flash", "Brown Sugar" and those other open-tuning Keith-riff based tunes. I guess Ry failed to realize that Keith wrote the riff to "Satisfaction" kinda proving his penchant for the style.

I had heard that Ry was a bit of a wad, but i did not know his claim of writing all those parts. That said - There is a difference stylistically & structurally between the 'Satisfaction' lead-line which if memory serves (uh-oh) he wrote quickly on a plane then went back to sleep as opposed to the open-tunings of Brown Sugar and Jumpin Jack Flash. Food for thought cuz that's the same type of tuning Ry was using on Sister Morphine. Hmmm... Don't care really cuz the glimmer t's are da shiz-nic.

I do know that's Keith playing bass on 'JJFlash' as well as 'Sympathy for The Devil'.
I read he would come in the studio and just erase Bill Wyman's parts and start ova'. Classic.

paladisiac · **Posted:** Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:02 pm

Spade Kitty Wrote:

also, anyone who loves Station to Station and hasn't heard Stage should really hear the live version of the title track. Adrian Belew just kills on lead guitar

i'm returning to bmg for their 12-for-1 deal in january in part to complete my bowie collection. had almost all of bowie's catalogue in my cubicle about 3-or-4 years ago borrowed from neighbor. about half my last membership was bowie.

now to complete everything thru "scary monsters"...

Radcliffe · **Posted:** Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:05 pm

paladisiac Wrote:

maybe i'll have an old college buddy of mine share his ramones stuff and try again. it's been a few years -- maybe i was high on markers.

Don't bother - you won't like it. And what's more, I don't want you to like it.

My faves from '76:

1. Ramones - s/t
Graham Parker and the Rumour - Howling Wind
Artful Dodger - Honor Among Thieves
Rolling Stones - Black and Blue
Graham Parker and the Rumour - Heat Treatment
Modern Lovers - s/t
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers - s/t
Ian Hunter - All American Alien Boy
Patti Smith - Radio Ethiopia
Warren Zevon - s/t
Michel Pagliaro - Aujourd' Hui
Dwight Twilley Band - Sincerely
Eddie and the Hot Rods - Teenage Depression
The Tubes - Young And Rich
The Runaways - s/t

And I think Billz is right - the Vibrators Pure Mania came out in '77.

Spade Kitty · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:49 am **Posts:** 4401

Yeah, Vibrators is 77.

Yail Bloor · **Posted:** Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:08 pm

mcaputo Wrote:

I had heard that Ry was a bit of a wad, but i did not know his claim of writing all those parts. That said - There is a difference stylistically & structurally between the 'Satisfaction' lead-line which if memory serves (uh-oh) he wrote quickly on a plane then went back to sleep as opposed to the open-tunings of Brown Sugar and Jumpin Jack Flash. Food for thought cuz that's the same type of tuning Ry was using on Sister Morphine. Hmmm... Don't care really cuz the glimmer t's are da shiz-nic.

I do know that's Keith playing bass on 'JJFlash' as well as 'Sympathy for The Devil'.
I read he would come in the studio and just erase Bill Wyman's parts and start ova'. Classic.

I was speaking more of the rythm line of "Satisfaction" than the lead (another funny story: Brian used to play the lead of "Popeye, The Sailor Man" during that song to fuck with M&K) which, I guess that you are right, that isn't the same tuning as those other songs (my bad---ask Busty or the Cap'N, I'm not the most "musical" or "technical" player to ever come down the pike)......funny shit, you know Gram claimed a bunch of shit too before he bit it? Ry is pretty lucky because most everybody who tried to kick it with Keef is either dead or insane (it took Booby Keys like 20 yrs to make it back)

mcaputo · **Posted:** Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:13 pm

Kristofferson got it right......."Blame It on The Stones"

Spade Kitty · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:49 am **Posts:** 4401

Yail Bloor Wrote:

Ry is pretty lucky because most everybody who tried to kick it with Keef is either dead or insane (it took Booby Keys like 20 yrs to make it back)

I would like to hear more about this

Yail Bloor · **Posted:** Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:29 pm

Spade Kitty Wrote:

Yail Bloor Wrote:

Ry is pretty lucky because most everybody who tried to kick it with Keef is either dead or insane (it took Booby Keys like 20 yrs to make it back)

I would like to hear more about this

there's a million stories out there about this shit. I mean a lot of the "Myth of Keith Richards" lore out there is just rock n roll bullshit but there is some evidence that people who tried to kick it too hard with or imitate Keef (Jimmy Miller, Gram, Bobby K, Brian Jones, Johnny Thunders, Anita Pallenberg--shit, I bet even the Jons brothers) either ended up ruined, broke, or DEAD.

The story with Gram and Bobby Keys is that they were banned from the Stones inter circle for being too fucked up.

Read some of these Stones bios out there. Lies or not, its funny stuff.

shaMoxie · **Posted:** Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:32 pm

I look forward to the Keef biopic.

Dusty Chalk · **Posted:** Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:24 pm

Black Sabbath - Technical Ecstasy
Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny
Jean-Michel Jarre - Oxygene
Rick Wakeman - No Earthly Connection
Steve Hackett - Voyage of the Acolyte
Peter Baumann - Romance 76 (mostly for side 2, one of the most beautiful pieces ever, "Meadow of Infinity")

robotboy · **Posted:** Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:27 pm

if it was any other poll, Ramones. but I have the guiltiest pleasure for that Boston record that I cannot deny.

Spade Kitty · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:49 am **Posts:** 4401

robotboy Wrote:

if it was any other poll, Ramones. but I have the guiltiest pleasure for that Boston record that I cannot deny.

put it in the poll especially for you

Ex Lion Tamer · **Posted:** Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:57 pm

I went with The Ramones, but only by a hair over, Coney Island Baby, Legalize It, Howling Wind and Heat Treatment.

robotboy · **Posted:** Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:00 pm

Spade Kitty Wrote:

robotboy Wrote:

if it was any other poll, Ramones. but I have the guiltiest pleasure for that Boston record that I cannot deny.

put it in the poll especially for you

i never listened to this disc louder and with more conviction than driving home from Des Moines to Chicago at 1AM after a show.

mcaputo · **Posted:** Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:12 pm

Have to go with Bob...

dylan - desire
stones - black & blue
jeff beck - wired
ramones - ramones
flamin groovies - shake some action
tubes - young & rich
jackson browne - the pretender
be bop deluxe - sunburst finish

paladisiac · **Posted:** Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:10 pm

[bump for those that have yet to vote for the ramones]

Bee OK · **Posted:** Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:29 pm

jewels santana Wrote:

a quick story about my love of "songs in the key of life"

one summer i worked at a day camp and drove four kids to the camp every day. Three girls sat in the back and gossiped and an 8 year old boy sat up front with me every day. He was 8 but he was a really curuious music nut. Always asking about about this artist or that and telling me about Tribe Called Quest or Skee Lo. So he was a huge Coolio fan, in fact the very first words he ever said to me before "hello" or any of that was, "do you like coolio? (pause) he's pretty cool."

so anyway, when i played him "Pastime Paradise" which was sampled for Coolio's "Gangster Paradise" . .. oh man, the look on his face and confusion and realization was so amazing.

He asked if we could listen to Stevie Wonder every day for the rest of the summer.

That is completely awesome, thanks for the story.

splates · **Posted:** Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:21 pm

Ive been meaning to get Super Ape for awhile

alive · **Joined:** Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:00 am **Posts:** 352

Station to Station. Ramones and Small Change are the runners up.

Senator LooGAR · **Posted:** Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:23 pm

Spade and Mcaputo (and everyone) read "Old Gods Almost Dead" if you want a comprehensive Stonesography. You get to hear about Ronnie's $500 a day freebase habit, and Brian Jones's penchant for beating the shit out of women, and everything else yail talks about.

Of course, if you want the PUR stuff, read Spanish Tony and Stanley Booth's books. Then try to live your life as if you were going through those stories personally. Wake up 5 years later and realize you wasted your life. Rinse, repeat.

Spade Kitty · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:49 am **Posts:** 4401

Sen.LooGAR'sCrunkmas Wrote:

Spade and Mcaputo (and everyone) read "Old Gods Almost Dead" if you want a comprehensive Stonesography. You get to hear about Ronnie's $500 a day freebase habit, and Brian Jones's penchant for beating the shit out of women, and everything else yail talks about.

Of course, if you want the PUR stuff, read Spanish Tony and Stanley Booth's books. Then try to live your life as if you were going through those stories personally. Wake up 5 years later and realize you wasted your life. Rinse, repeat.

Thanks, GAR. I'm more and more fascinated with the Stones the more I hang out with you guys here.

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