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I don't buy the crap that one lousy hit of acid will permanently damage your noodle. Secondly, I learned a whole lot more from my mistakes than I have from my successes.

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* One use of LSD or PCP can cause multiple and dramatic behavioral changes. PCP = /= LSD
* Large doses of hallucinogens may cause convulsions, ruptured blood vessels in the brain and irreversible brain damage. Never heard of this, besides, you only need a tiny amount of LSD, and this does not mention actual amount
* Many hallucinogens cause unpleasant and potentially dangerous "flashbacks," long after the drug was used. Ive never person personally known anyone whos had one, though im sure they do happen
* Most hallucinogens cause "hallucinations," i.e., changes in perception of time, smell, touch, etc. duh, thats why they are taken

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In 1996, an intriguing study from Abraham and Frank Duffy, MD, appeared in Psychiatry Research.

These doctors compared the brain waves of non-LSD users to those of chronic LSD users who complained of visual hallucinations years after taking the drug. They detected faster brain waves in the LSD users, suggesting that the regions of the brain that control visual perception were no longer restrained by other parts. Says nothing about the direction of causality, is a lone study

In effect, these visual brain centers were in a sort of electrical overdrive. This may account for the flashbacks that chronic LSD users report sometimes a decade or more after they've stopped using the drug.


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Seems like most have done in the past, but don't anymore, so I have a question:
Songs I used to hear during my heavy E phase still stir up the endorphin pot up in my head, is this just memory, or residue, you think?
BTW, I love it when I get that just walked into Amnesia on 6th Street with a belly full of chemicals and cheap 7-11 beers.

and the night was just getting started...

think I just felt it. :lol:

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There were also "serious" scientific/ medical studies that proved that LSD ingestion caused broken chromosomes, which would lead to certain birth defects in the progeny of LSD users.

I had a friend who used to trip regularly (did drop out, no ska though). His wife got pregnant after this study was released and he swore that if it came out with more than the expected number of limbs, he'd name it Zaphod.

I guess the kid got lucky, but I still think Zaphod would have been a cool name.

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I don't buy the crap that one lousy hit of acid will permanently damage your noodle.

No, but one hit of lousy acid can.

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I don't buy the crap that one lousy hit of acid will permanently damage your noodle.

No, but one hit of lousy acid can.


Mug, WTF is that in your avatar, am I tripping now?

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Mug, WTF is that in your avatar, am I tripping now?

Um.....a mugwump?
(Ask William S Burroughs and David Cronenburg for more info)

I don't have enough information to answer the second part of your question.

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There were also "serious" scientific/ medical studies that proved that LSD ingestion caused broken chromosomes, which would lead to certain birth defects in the progeny of LSD users.

I had a friend who used to trip regularly (did drop out, no ska though). His wife got pregnant after this study was released and he swore that if it came out with more than the expected number of limbs, he'd name it Zaphod.

I guess the kid got lucky, but I still think Zaphod would have been a cool name.


Luck had nothing to do with it.


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Luck had nothing to do with it.

Oh yeah? I'm not sure he wouldn't have named him Zaphod anyway, but his wife wouldn't let him.

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Never done it, never will. Too dangerous -- one risks permanent damage.
Hmmm...so, following this logic would rule out a large percentage of daily human activity. Ever ride in or drive a car?
Well, the risk is much higher. I have a friend who's read a lot of important work in this area (the studying of recreational drugs is his livelihood), and in his circle of knowledge, it's common knowledge that the effects of LSD are permanent. I'll see if I can get some sources from him, but what I've gleaned off of him (second hand knowledge -- therefore thirdhand to you) is that it could be your first dose, or your 37th, you just don't know, but you could be hallucinating for the rest of your life. Quite frankly, I don't trust myself not to become a non-contributing member of a society if that happened to me. I'm sure there are other people who could handle it, but I doubt it's any of you.

I'm long past my 37th car-ride, though -- the odds are with me.

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So anyone on this board want to score me some acid? I wasn't kidding when I said I REALLY wanted to try it.


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i enjoy weed. cant say ive ever smoked LSD before.


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And a tip for mountain bikers: mescaline. Seriously.


Jeebus! I don't even want to think about rock gardens/drops on anything but pure adrenaline.

I never did things like LSD because I was always horrified by the stories of kids who did it and saw a dragon and gouged their eyes out. Yum. I don't know it never attracted me. The thought of an altered perception was honestly never a draw because I felt I could achieve it in other states. I think the drink was more alluring to me anyway.

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beachy Wrote:
Songs I used to hear during my heavy E phase still stir up the endorphin pot up in my head, is this just memory, or residue, you think?


I haven't done an E in 5 years and probably won't again (I'm not really in those circles anymore) but I still get an 'ecstasy experience' when listening to techno, any techno, but it is even stronger with tracks I actually heard when in an altered condition.

The last time I did it, at a DJ Paul Damage show, it kicked in during 'Running Man' and when I found 'Running Man' a year or so later in a record shop I didn't baulk at the high price. I stick that on my headphones, at high volume, and its like that Saturday night all over again.

Once an experience is in your head, I think you can relive it quite vividly, whatever it might be.

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i enjoy weed. cant say ive ever smoked LSD before.


I just rolled a J, got myself a date for thursday, and now im listening to Curtis Mayfield and drinking a beer. Life is fucking good right now on holiday.

Although i am just procrastinating and not making two pretty big decisions that i need to make soon.


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And a tip for mountain bikers: mescaline. Seriously.


Jeebus! I don't even want to think about rock gardens/drops on anything but pure adrenaline.

I never did things like LSD because I was always horrified by the stories of kids who did it and saw a dragon and gouged their eyes out. Yum. I don't know it never attracted me. The thought of an altered perception was honestly never a draw because I felt I could achieve it in other states. I think the drink was more alluring to me anyway.


The goofball horror stories about LSD are no where as cool as the actual trip, and it's always different for each person. Contrary to what I was told by friends before I did it, I never really experienced enhanced or oversaturated colors, tracers off the lights or enhanced hearing. I did become much more aware of how my brain can associate different things as being similar ("Hey, that couple looks like that hippo and worm from the Richard Scarry books") and how quickly it recalls things from my memory for comparison.

Though that particular Richard Scarry example is actually from a couple months ago, I wouldn't have been the least bit surprised if I would have had the same thoughts while tripping. It's not that I would have actually believed they had morphed into those two characters, but I would have been pretty amused that that's what they resembled. For me, LSD just cranked up that sort of brain activity.

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And a tip for mountain bikers: mescaline. Seriously.


Jeebus! I don't even want to think about rock gardens/drops on anything but pure adrenaline.

I never did things like LSD because I was always horrified by the stories of kids who did it and saw a dragon and gouged their eyes out. Yum. I don't know it never attracted me. The thought of an altered perception was honestly never a draw because I felt I could achieve it in other states. I think the drink was more alluring to me anyway.


The goofball horror stories about LSD are no where as cool as the actual trip, and it's always different for each person. Contrary to what I was told by friends before I did it, I never really experienced enhanced or oversaturated colors, tracers off the lights or enhanced hearing. I did become much more aware of how my brain can associate different things as being similar ("Hey, that couple looks like that hippo and worm from the Richard Scarry books") and how quickly it recalls things from my memory for comparison.

Though that particular Richard Scarry example is actually from a couple months ago, I wouldn't have been the least bit surprised if I would have had the same thoughts while tripping. It's not that I would have actually believed they had morphed into those two characters, but I would have been pretty amused that that's what they resembled. For me, LSD just cranked up that sort of brain activity.


It's cos that shit doesn't really happen. People think they're gonna wig, so they do.

The only thing that ever freaked me out were "thought circles" -- if do this, this will happen, but if I don't that will happen -- follow those thoughts for what seems like 3-4 hours, but lo and behold, its only been 20 miniutes.

The best is when you do it a bunch with the same folks, so you are all of a like mind, and then "take the show on the road." Some of my best memories of going to parties in HS and just fucking with people so hard they were afraid.

As for mountain biking, I can see that. I went 4-4 in a softball game once ;)[/i]

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Anything and everything you ever wanted to know about acid and pretty much any other psychoactive substance (right on down to caffeine).

edit - And I can't believe I'm quoted in somebody's sig. I guess I've made it, huh? :lol:

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The only thing that ever freaked me out were "thought circles" -- if do this, this will happen, but if I don't that will happen -- follow those thoughts for what seems like 3-4 hours, but lo and behold, its only been 20 miniutes.

The best is when you do it a bunch with the same folks, so you are all of a like mind, and then "take the show on the road." Some of my best memories of going to parties in HS and just fucking with people so hard they were afraid.


Dude, we used to roll around like the suburban Merry Pranksters in like weird thrift store clothes and shit. So much fun. Also living in a town with 100+ miles of golf cart paths winding through the woods=AWESOME.

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Dude, we used to roll around like the suburban Merry Pranksters in like weird thrift store clothes and shit. So much fun. Also living in a town with 100+ miles of golf cart paths winding through the woods=AWESOME.


This reminded me of that Simpsons episode where Homer and ex-hippies play Billy Joel to "blow peoples minds".

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someone needs to dose this thread.

As someone who has played with pretty much all of it, I can honestly say alcohol has been far worse for me than any hallucinogens ever have. Not always good, but I'd rather have my kids doing that than a handful of pills. any day.

not for everyone, but they sure are fun for those they're for.

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I sit cross-legged, looking out across the city below, the shining Pacific twenty miles west beyond Santa Monica, there is dust under me, a drying western grass and sage-like weeds, everything is golden. A shaft of light connects my spine up into infinite heavens, and deep down, connected, through the earth. I am aware that the ground of being, the substance of everything, is in the hands of a Presence of Universal Love. I need never worry and not even try to voyage into these Hands, they are mine, yours.... we are Love, which at that moment is not theoretical, but present, palpable, constituing my every breath and heart's rhythmic call of living.

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i think i only dosed 3 times. all wonderful experiences. i prefer shrooms. and later in life, ecstasy.

i always felt great, almost refreshed the day after lsd or shrooms - dispite what someone said earlier.

it was E that always left me in a weeklong funk afterwards.

haven't done any of those in about 5 years though.


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Seems like most have done in the past, but don't anymore, so I have a question:
Songs I used to hear during my heavy E phase still stir up the endorphin pot up in my head, is this just memory, or residue, you think?

i get this too, whenever i hear house music (sorry, not really into this music, so not sure what the correct term these days is). but whenever i hear this kinda music, my heart starts to race and i get that feeling....

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