MLB 2010

FT · **Posted:** Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:56 pm

i don't practice renteria

FT · **Posted:** Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:59 pm

JOSH HAMILTON, MUTHAFUCKAS!!!

got your cano hangin' right here...

billy g · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm **Posts:** 9020

Hamilton deserved it. Cano had an opportunity to steal it from him in September if he had put up a really strong month in the heat of the pennant race but he was playing through his injuries and put up numbers barely above replacement level for the month of September. I probably still would have put him above Cabrera based on positional value and his great defense but I don't have a big problem with Cabrera being #2. Adrian Beltre was really underrated by voters. He should have been top five.

shiv · **Posted:** Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:32 pm

damn, i guess someone else is going to have to mess with beltre's head (if we even keep him).

FT · **Posted:** Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:43 pm

billy g Wrote:

Hamilton deserved it. Cano had an opportunity to steal it from him in September if he had put up a really strong month in the heat of the pennant race but he was playing through his injuries and put up numbers barely above replacement level for the month of September. I probably still would have put him above Cabrera based on positional value and his great defense but I don't have a big problem with Cabrera being #2. Adrian Beltre was really underrated by voters. He should have been top five.

Hamilton was the first player with at least a .359 avg, 40 doubles, 30 homers, and 100 RBI since Lou Gehrig did it in 1934.

And Hamilton missed an entire month due to injury. Shudder to think what those numbers would have looked like had he not gotten injured...

billy g · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm **Posts:** 9020

FT Wrote:

billy g Wrote:

Hamilton deserved it. Cano had an opportunity to steal it from him in September if he had put up a really strong month in the heat of the pennant race but he was playing through his injuries and put up numbers barely above replacement level for the month of September. I probably still would have put him above Cabrera based on positional value and his great defense but I don't have a big problem with Cabrera being #2. Adrian Beltre was really underrated by voters. He should have been top five.

Hamilton was the first player with at least a .359 avg, 40 doubles, 30 homers, and 100 RBI since Lou Gehrig did it in 1934.

And Hamilton missed an entire month due to injury. Shudder to think what those numbers would have looked like had he not gotten injured...

With at least a .359 average huh? That's a pretty strange and convenient cutoff. My guess is that if he'd played the last month, his counting stats (HR, RBIs, Doubles) would have increased a bit but the average would have dropped a little. There's still no taking anything away from the fact that he had a great year though and deserved the award. Doesn't the fact that the Rangers lost the WS make him a bum though?

FT · **Posted:** Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:03 pm

billy g Wrote:

With at least a .359 average huh? That's a pretty strange and convenient cutoff. My guess is that if he'd played the last month, his counting stats (HR, RBIs, Doubles) would have increased a bit but the average would have dropped a little. There's still no taking anything away from the fact that he had a great year though and deserved the award. Doesn't the fact that the Rangers lost the WS make him a bum though?

it was tweeted by a local sports media guy - now that you mention it, listing .359 is kind of odd...i wonder if it was .355 or .350 that there were quite a few others since gehrig? even so, pretty solid numbers.

FT · **Posted:** Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:04 pm

billy g Wrote:

Doesn't the fact that the Rangers lost the WS make him a bum though?

yes, it does

he SUCKED in the world series

fuckin' LOSER!!!

timmyjoe42 · **Posted:** Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:28 pm

Red, ex-Red

Cotton · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:12 pm **Posts:** 17155

Cliff motherfucking Lee

(sorry, bob)

Twilightkid · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:25 am

Cotton Wrote:

Cliff motherfucking Lee

(sorry, bob)

Halelujah!!! didn't want him past 3 years.

he NL East is just a little bit sweeter as well!

TheTheory · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:09 am

What the hell just happened.

It's just that easy to turn down the extra Yankee cash.

andyfest · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:20 am

Gives me a little more respect for Lee turning down and extra $50M to play for Philly again (reportedly).

FT · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:15 pm

Cotton Wrote:

Cliff motherfucking Lee

(sorry, bob)

as much as i'd have liked him to stay, i'm glad you got him and not the effing yankees

also, i hope he picks up where he left off from this year's world series, and not the one from 2009

Twilightkid · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:17 pm

FT Wrote:

Cotton Wrote:

Cliff motherfucking Lee

(sorry, bob)

as much as i'd have liked him to stay, i'm glad you got him and not the greatest sports franchise yankees

also, i hope he picks up where he left off from this year's world series, and not the one from 2009

I agree, whole heartedly.

FT · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:21 pm

shiv Wrote:

damn, i guess someone else is going to have to mess with beltre's head (if we even keep him).

now that they've got all that cash left they didn't end up having to give lee, the rangers are supposedly looking at beltre and greinke

FT · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:22 pm

Twilightkid Wrote:

FT Wrote:

Cotton Wrote:

Cliff motherfucking Lee

(sorry, bob)

as much as i'd have liked him to stay, i'm glad you got him and not the piece of miserable shit yankees

also, i hope he picks up where he left off from this year's world series, and not the one from 2009

I agree, whole heartedly.

two men, one mind

Twilightkid · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:27 pm

FT Wrote:

Twilightkid Wrote:

FT Wrote:

Cotton Wrote:

Cliff motherfucking Lee

(sorry, bob)

as much as i'd have liked him to stay, i'm glad you got him and not the piece of miserable shit yankees

Why you little...

FT · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:35 pm

Twilightkid Wrote:

FT Wrote:

Twilightkid Wrote:

FT Wrote:

Cotton Wrote:

Cliff motherfucking Lee

(sorry, bob)

as much as i'd have liked him to stay, i'm glad you got him and not the piece of miserable shit yankees

Why you little...

all in good fun, dov

now if you were a yankee AND laker fan (like that no good billy g), then it would be dueling pistol time LOL

Twilightkid · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:39 pm

Lakers, never.....piss on Kobe.

I'm all Amore for Amare! 16-9 Knicks!

FT · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:10 pm

Twilightkid Wrote:

Lakers, never.....piss on Kobe.

I'm all Amore for Amare! 16-9 Knicks!

i'm legitimately impressed with the knicks this year

well, as impressed as a fan of the 20-3 spurs can be

Twilightkid · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:18 pm

Well this run of 13 wins in 14 games has been against 11 teams with losing records....No knock on that...Good teams are suppose to beat bad teams....

Their win over Denver on Sunday was huge and we got Boston and Miami over the next 4 days....There is the test....

but whatever, i have suffered long enough.....Give me a .500 record and an 8th seed and I'll be satisfied this season....I'm not greedy.....Next season, look out! Chris Paul and/or Carmelo!

FT · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:15 pm

Twilightkid Wrote:

Well this run of 13 wins in 14 games has been against 11 teams with losing records....No knock on that...Good teams are suppose to beat bad teams....

Their win over Denver on Sunday was huge and we got Boston and Miami over the next 4 days....There is the test....

but whatever, i have suffered long enough.....Give me a .500 record and an 8th seed and I'll be satisfied this season....I'm not greedy.....Next season, look out! Chris Paul and/or Carmelo!

yeah, this is definitely the brightest things have looked for the knicks since the ewing era

billy g · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm **Posts:** 9020

andyfest Wrote:

Gives me a little more respect for Lee turning down and extra $50M to play for Philly again (reportedly).

This isn't accurate. My understanding is that the three offers were:

Phillies: 5 years - $120 million
Yankees: 6 years - $132 million with a player option for a 7th year @ $16 million
Rangers: 6 years - $138 million with incentives and an option that vests based on health and/or performance that could increase the package to 7 years and $161 million.

So the Yankees offered the most guaranteed money but it was only $28 million more than Phillies and $2-3 million less annually. Phillies offered the highest annual salary but the least years. Rangers offered a package that could have been the highest if he performed up to expectations.

You could really argue that anyone of those deals was the most attractive or least attractive. He's probably a Phillie because he wanted to be and not because their package was head and shoulders above the others but its not really accurate to claim that he made a lot of concessions to go back there.

I wanted him to sign with NY but had mixed feelings about the long term commitment. It could be for the best assuming Burnett rebounds, CC doesn't opt out next year, and they don't panic and gut the farm system.

Yail Bloor · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:47 pm

Philly fans I know are saying he didn't go to New York because they spit on his wife at Yankee Stadium.

Do with that what you will, i'm just reporting.

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