NBA 2009-10

harry · **Posted:** Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:14 pm

FT Wrote:

Rick Derris Wrote:

FT Wrote:

harry Wrote:

Best center, to my mind, if you rate every aspect of the game (defense, shot making, rebounding, passing, leadership, presence) is Jabbar at his peak. Wilt also was a force of nature. Olajuwon is in the next tier with Shaq, Russell, Walton... then in the next tier Malone, Robinson....

Mostly agree, except Malone was strictly a PF and Robinson was better than Walton. Oh, and Wilt/Russell have to be 1a and 1b, with all due respect to the great Kareem/Hakeem at 2a and 2b. I'd say those four really have a big gap before you get to Shaq and Robinson.

No shit. Russell takes back seat to NO ONE.

Dude AVERAGED 22 rebs for a career and was possibly the best shot blocker of all time when they didn't even record that statistic.

Also, more rings than anyone.

Truth be told, Russell should be ahead of Wilt, if anything, seeing how he was half-a-foot shorter and played him to a standstill throughout their careers while piling up the championships.

He's #3 on my list.... offense, he scored, but didn't have spectacular offensive moves... and it was more than "he didn't have to score because of Jones and Hav and the rest", he didn't have a great offensive game....

Thee Incident · **Posted:** Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:36 pm

Jesus Christ harry, you're more delusional about the Lakers than Bob is with Notre Dame.

harry · **Posted:** Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:09 pm

Thee Chad Wrote:

Jesus Christ harry, you're more delusional about the Lakers than Bob is with Notre Dame.

Jerry West and Elgin Baylor on my wall as a kid.

But honestly now, it's only a little over the line... the Lakers were and are exceptional.

FT · **Posted:** Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:00 pm

Thee Chad Wrote:

Jesus Christ harry, you're more delusional about the Lakers than Bob is with Notre Dame.

awesome

billy g · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm **Posts:** 9020

FT Wrote:

harry Wrote:

Best center, to my mind, if you rate every aspect of the game (defense, shot making, rebounding, passing, leadership, presence) is Jabbar at his peak. Wilt also was a force of nature. Olajuwon is in the next tier with Shaq, Russell, Walton... then in the next tier Malone, Robinson....

Mostly agree, except Malone was strictly a PF .

I would assume he meant Moses not Karl.

FT · **Posted:** Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:18 pm

billy g Wrote:

FT Wrote:

harry Wrote:

Best center, to my mind, if you rate every aspect of the game (defense, shot making, rebounding, passing, leadership, presence) is Jabbar at his peak. Wilt also was a force of nature. Olajuwon is in the next tier with Shaq, Russell, Walton... then in the next tier Malone, Robinson....

Mostly agree, except Malone was strictly a PF .

I would assume he meant Moses not Karl.

you're right, my bad

moses would be on a lower tier with willis reed and robert parish

Bakerhead · **Posted:** Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:41 pm

harry Wrote:

FT Wrote:

Rick Derris Wrote:

FT Wrote:

harry Wrote:

Best center, to my mind, if you rate every aspect of the game (defense, shot making, rebounding, passing, leadership, presence) is Jabbar at his peak. Wilt also was a force of nature. Olajuwon is in the next tier with Shaq, Russell, Walton... then in the next tier Malone, Robinson....

Mostly agree, except Malone was strictly a PF and Robinson was better than Walton. Oh, and Wilt/Russell have to be 1a and 1b, with all due respect to the great Kareem/Hakeem at 2a and 2b. I'd say those four really have a big gap before you get to Shaq and Robinson.

No shit. Russell takes back seat to NO ONE.

Dude AVERAGED 22 rebs for a career and was possibly the best shot blocker of all time when they didn't even record that statistic.

Also, more rings than anyone.

Truth be told, Russell should be ahead of Wilt, if anything, seeing how he was half-a-foot shorter and played him to a standstill throughout their careers while piling up the championships.

He's #3 on my list.... offense, he scored, but didn't have spectacular offensive moves... and it was more than "he didn't have to score because of Jones and Hav and the rest", he didn't have a great offensive game....

I kinda agree with Harry on this one by player skill set and numbers I think Kareem is second only to MJ. As far as the greatest player to ever play in the NBA. Real Talk

FT · **Posted:** Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:19 pm

Bakerhead Wrote:

harry Wrote:

FT Wrote:

Rick Derris Wrote:

FT Wrote:

harry Wrote:

Best center, to my mind, if you rate every aspect of the game (defense, shot making, rebounding, passing, leadership, presence) is Jabbar at his peak. Wilt also was a force of nature. Olajuwon is in the next tier with Shaq, Russell, Walton... then in the next tier Malone, Robinson....

Mostly agree, except Malone was strictly a PF and Robinson was better than Walton. Oh, and Wilt/Russell have to be 1a and 1b, with all due respect to the great Kareem/Hakeem at 2a and 2b. I'd say those four really have a big gap before you get to Shaq and Robinson.

No shit. Russell takes back seat to NO ONE.

Dude AVERAGED 22 rebs for a career and was possibly the best shot blocker of all time when they didn't even record that statistic.

Also, more rings than anyone.

Truth be told, Russell should be ahead of Wilt, if anything, seeing how he was half-a-foot shorter and played him to a standstill throughout their careers while piling up the championships.

He's #3 on my list.... offense, he scored, but didn't have spectacular offensive moves... and it was more than "he didn't have to score because of Jones and Hav and the rest", he didn't have a great offensive game....

I kinda agree with Harry on this one by player skill set and numbers I think Kareem is second only to MJ. As far as the greatest player to ever play in the NBA. Real Talk

Kareem's not even the best Laker ever.

Magic.

Bakerhead · **Posted:** Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:31 pm

FT Wrote:

Bakerhead Wrote:

harry Wrote:

FT Wrote:

Rick Derris Wrote:

FT Wrote:

harry Wrote:

Best center, to my mind, if you rate every aspect of the game (defense, shot making, rebounding, passing, leadership, presence) is Jabbar at his peak. Wilt also was a force of nature. Olajuwon is in the next tier with Shaq, Russell, Walton... then in the next tier Malone, Robinson....

Mostly agree, except Malone was strictly a PF and Robinson was better than Walton. Oh, and Wilt/Russell have to be 1a and 1b, with all due respect to the great Kareem/Hakeem at 2a and 2b. I'd say those four really have a big gap before you get to Shaq and Robinson.

No shit. Russell takes back seat to NO ONE.

Dude AVERAGED 22 rebs for a career and was possibly the best shot blocker of all time when they didn't even record that statistic.

Also, more rings than anyone.

Truth be told, Russell should be ahead of Wilt, if anything, seeing how he was half-a-foot shorter and played him to a standstill throughout their careers while piling up the championships.

He's #3 on my list.... offense, he scored, but didn't have spectacular offensive moves... and it was more than "he didn't have to score because of Jones and Hav and the rest", he didn't have a great offensive game....

I kinda agree with Harry on this one by player skill set and numbers I think Kareem is second only to MJ. As far as the greatest player to ever play in the NBA. Real Talk

Kareem's not even the best Laker ever.

Magic.

I grow up watching Magic. As a kid he was my fav player. I cried when he retired! But you are so wrong.

Yail Bloor · **Posted:** Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:35 pm

Magic is the greatest Laker. Apologies to Jerry, Kareem Kobe, Shaq et al.

Cotton · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:12 pm **Posts:** 17155

Rick Fox. Hands down.

shiv · **Posted:** Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:09 pm

[img][416:500]http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/lakers.historical.photos/images/kurt-rambis.jpg[/img]

Bakerhead · **Posted:** Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:23 pm

Yail Bloor Wrote:

Magic is the greatest Laker. Apologies to Jerry, Kareem Kobe, Shaq et al.

I respectfully disagree. I believe Jerry West is the Greatest Laker if you look at everything he has done for the franchise. Kareem Abdul Jabbar is the greater basketball player to ever don a Laker uniform.

http://www.nba.com/history/players/abdu ... stats.html

Cotton · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:12 pm **Posts:** 17155

I think you're correct on both counts.

but Rick Fox so embodies that smuggy bullshit attitude that I associate with the Lakers and their fains (except you, Irwin M Fletcher). and Magic has AIDS.

so they win.

Yail Bloor · **Posted:** Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:18 pm

Bakerhead Wrote:

Yail Bloor Wrote:

Magic is the greatest Laker. Apologies to Jerry, Kareem Kobe, Shaq et al.

I respectfully disagree. I believe Jerry West is the Greatest Laker if you look at everything he has done for the franchise. Kareem Abdul Jabbar is the greater basketball player to ever don a Laker uniform.

http://www.nba.com/history/players/abdu ... stats.html

I'm the last person on this board that you need to post a link to stats for.

Yail Bloor · **Posted:** Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:18 pm

Copied from another board but I got a kick out of it...

Quote:

Hard to ask for more from game #1
Beat the Pacers by 11
Put 120 on the board
30 assists vs. only 10 turnovers
16 steals on defense mostly due to hustle
Atone for some shaky halfcourt defense with a lockdown 4th quarter
6 players in double figures
Al Horford 24 and 16
Josh Smith 18 points, 8 assists, 5 steals and ZERO THREE POINT SHOTS ATTEMPTED
No starter played more than 39 minutes
All 5 bench players played at least 10 minutes
Total turnovers in the game by those 5 bench players - ZERO. (that's "fact of the day" material right there)
Rookie PG with 4 assists in 14 minutes, and he looked like he "belonged" if that makes any sense

Pretty much a perfect outcome.

The best news is J Smoove not attempting any threes.

mutty · **Posted:** Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:55 pm

<-- Pistons fan. But I think the Lakers are by far the best team in the league.

Black Magic Putin · **Posted:** Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:56 pm

yail did you see this stuff?
http://deadspin.com/5392067/excerpts-fr ... ou-to-read

some of it is pretty wow

harry · **Posted:** Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:19 am

rope a dope

I got y'all talking Lakertalk

Vanlandingham · **Posted:** Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:25 am

f'in Nets

Yail Bloor · **Posted:** Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:35 am

Black Magic Putin Wrote:

yail did you see this stuff?
http://deadspin.com/5392067/excerpts-fr ... ou-to-read

some of it is pretty wow

No! All I saw was that the publisher wasnt going to release it...did not realize there were excerpts.

Mick · **Posted:** Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:47 am

Gasol plays much better when he's at center.

And Bill Russell is the greatest player of all time. In any sport.

And while that notion is arguable, the fact that he is the greatest sporting mind, is much harder to debate...

Bakerhead · **Posted:** Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:04 pm

Vanlandingham Wrote:

f'in Nets

Yeah that was a tough break but that rookie Williams is impressive.

FT · **Posted:** Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:00 am

fucking bulls

dammit

Vanlandingham · **Posted:** Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:01 pm

Bakerhead Wrote:

Vanlandingham Wrote:

f'in Nets

Yeah that was a tough break but that rookie Williams is impressive.

I agree there. We'll see what they can do against the Magic tonight. I'm just hoping they can stay in the game until the 4th quarter.

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