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there is no excuse for putting little brother on any list.


yeah, that was one of the bigger head-scratchers (among many) on the list for me.

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While "favorite" and "important" may, at these levels of inquiry, be equally subjectively determined, they do offer distinct ways of thinking about music. I can produce two lists for each decade (of my six) for music that in my judgement would be "important" and "my favorite."

And "important" could have clear criteria, both objective and critical. That is, what sold the most, how did it infilter MSM, what generated imitators... and what is most subjective but strongest criterion, what epitomized the zeitgeist.

Lists like this one, that both take on the concept of "important" while fealessly comparing apples and oranges are interesting. This particular list is interesting; lots of serious music gets surfaced.

And any list made within the decade it critiques is, of course, a failure of presentism. But is grist for the mill of synthesis and speculation that is amusing.

I believe that "every generation thinks its music is significant" is foundationally false. Every generation is not equal. There are moments, eras, generations where cultural and historical forces align to some greater significance. And in the succeeding generations from the 60s there has been entropic disillutionment about the very idea of significance. Hegemonic forces shape kids into both little units of production and nihilist droids who scoff at significance. "Significance " increasingly has become sentimental dreck.

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And Drinky, I think that mass culture = fail culture and indie = goog is an underrated argument of our times, and is certainly 98.3+ percent of why we are all here, and I think it is an interesting, and nigh important, phenomenon that even though music is essentially free, there are a million blogs, XM/Sirius, etc available to the consumer, yet a significant proportion of people like spoon fed crap like this. Sort of like network news - even if a broadcast "only" gets 11 million viewers a night, that is still 10 x the amount of people who ever watch Mad Men and 100 x the people who see The Wire.

Except that Mad Men and The Wire are part of that mainstream culture. So just admit you like Nickelback and get to it.


"Rockstar" might be the best Strip Club song since "Make it Rain" :lol:

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And Drinky, I think that mass culture = fail culture and indie = goog is an underrated argument of our times, and is certainly 98.3+ percent of why we are all here, and I think it is an interesting, and nigh important, phenomenon that even though music is essentially free, there are a million blogs, XM/Sirius, etc available to the consumer, yet a significant proportion of people like spoon fed crap like this. Sort of like network news - even if a broadcast "only" gets 11 million viewers a night, that is still 10 x the amount of people who ever watch Mad Men and 100 x the people who see The Wire.

Except that Mad Men and The Wire are part of that mainstream culture. So just admit you like Nickelback and get to it.


"Rockstar" might be the best Strip Club song since "Make it Rain" :lol:


N.E.R.D.?

(Too lazy to go back to see if it's on the NPR list.)


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