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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:51 pm 
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I'm not sure I've ever heard Foreign Affairs, save one or two songs. It's one no one ever talks about.


I can see why. It's largely devoid of anything to get excited about, save for 'Potter's Field'.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:06 pm 
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I'm not sure I've ever heard Foreign Affairs, save one or two songs. It's one no one ever talks about.


Yeah its one of the few ones I've never heard either.


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Small Change. Great album. "Tom Traubert's Blues" isn't quite as tedious as I had remembered, and I like the other slow, boozy tracks just fine. There are a few out-and-out classics on this album: "Step Right Up", "The Piano Has Been Drinking", and "Pasties and a G-String". It's funny, but to me this is how Tom Waits' voice is supposed to sound, and I can never realyl get used to the way it is on the earlier stuff. This is his first truly classic album, I think, and isn't just his voice, but the songs and his sense of humor that comes through so well.

Is it just me, or were a couple of the songs corrupted in that Foreign Affairs download for anybody else? I think I have that one at home (I should have everything), and I'll try to remember to bring it to work with me tomorrow.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:17 pm 
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I listened to Nighthawks at the Diner and Small Change today. I guess I could see how Nighthawks would be a little long and tedious at points for some and maybe how the live format would grate a bit. I really like it though despite its flaws. Perhaps its how entrenched late night LA is in the songs.

Small Change is even better. Its nearly perfect and head and shoulders above anything else in his catalog imo. I don't merely tolerate Tom Taubert's blues. I love the whole emtional build up of the song and the vocals fit perfectly. I also find it inexplicable how TEH MACHINE wouldn't love the string of "I Wish I was in New Orleans" through "Bad Liver And a Broken Heart." I know the vocals. Get over it. This is greatness. I guess I should get off my high horse though because I know others will find my opinions on some of the later works similarly odd.

These albums are making me think that I really should take this tour sometime.


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This is the purest example of how different brains interpret the same stimulus and pump out completely different perceptual experiences. I could listen to Small Change over and over and over (and I nearly did, 5x by my count), but I'm not sure I'll ever hear the "greatness" and I sure as shit don't hear "nearly perfect". And as far as the vocals go, I'll never "get over it". It's like dumping boiling oil over you hands and then when that pain hits full force, saying "get over it!". Sometimes you just can't reinterpret what your brain is trying to tell you in the simplest possible terms. This is pain and it cannot be relabeled.

You're getting my back up, BG and I've only got about 10 albums to go, including two bona fide classics that everyone loves ;).

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:21 am 
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Two welcome changes in style made Blue Valentine a fresh listening experience for Tom Waits fans. First, Waits alters the instrumentation, bringing in electric guitar and keyboards and largely dispensing with the strings for a more blues-oriented, hard-edged sound. Second, though his world view remains fixed on the lowlifes of the late night, he expands beyond the musings of the barstool philosopher who previously had acted as the first-person character of most of his songs. When Waits does use the first-person, it's to write a "Christmas Card From a Hooker in Minneapolis," not the figure most listeners had associated with the singer himself. The result is a broadening of subject matter, a narrative discipline that makes most of the tunes story songs, and a coherent framing for Waits' typically colorful and intriguing imagery. These are not radical reinventions, but Waits had followed such a rigidly stylized approach on his previous albums that for anyone who had followed him so far, the course correction was big news.

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I'm enjoying the hell out of Blue Valentine.

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Foreign Affairs. God, what a bore. Serious step down, not just from Small Change but from all four of his previous albums. I didn't even like "Potter's Field" that much.

And it looks like I totally had Blue Valentine mixed up with either this album or One from the Heart. Blue Valentine seems like it'll be pretty cool from the description.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:01 pm 
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On my third play of Blue Valentine and I'd have to say that this album might be my favourite by Waits yet, heavy on what I've enjoy thus far and light on what I haven't, mixing up the musical styles a bit more. I could probably listen to $29.00 all damn day.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:30 pm 
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On my third play of Blue Valentine and I'd have to say that this album might be my favourite by Waits yet, heavy on what I've enjoy thus far and light on what I haven't, mixing up the musical styles a bit more. I could probably listen to $29.00 all damn day.

This album gets undeservedly shit on a great deal. IMO it's actually a breakthrough album for Waits, his first inkling of where he could go with this character/world he'd created without autodestructing into pure schtick. "$29.00", "Whistlin' Past The Graveyard", "A Sweet Little Bullet From a Pretty Blue Gun", "Romeo Is Bleeding", and "Christmas Card From a Hooker in Minneapolis" are all filled with the drama and theatrics of typical Waits, but they're also pretty awesome songs.

Dumpjack, you're probably gonna freak out over a lot of the next album.


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I can't say I've ever heard this album shit on, but I do agree it never gets the mentions it deserves as one of his best records.


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Heartattack and Vine, Tom Waits' first album in two years and his last of seven for Asylum Records, is a transitional album, with tracks like the rhythm-heavy title song and "'Til the Money Runs Out" foreshadowing the sonic experiments of the Island albums, while piano-with-orchestra tracks like "Saving All My Love for You" and "On the Nickel" (written as a motion-picture title tune) hark back to Waits' Randy Newman-influenced early days. It is just as well that Waits never entirely gave up on the ballad material; "Jersey Girl," a Drifters-style song, is a winner, and it was appropriated by Bruce Springsteen on his 1981 tour. Also, at least at this point, the rougher tunes all tended to sound the same.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:05 am 
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I'm so-so with Heartattack and Vine. I don't dislike it, but for some reason it has just never really reached out and grabbed me like some of his other work.

I will consider it a great thing that you will get to Swordfishtrombones on a Saturday.

Curious to see how it comes across for you, especially after listening all in order like this.


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Title track is one of my all-time fave Waits songs.


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The girls around here all look like Cadillacs, drinking Chivas Regal in a $4 room, the guy can really deliver a visual line. Heartattack and Vine is delivering. This is a driving around at night, pool hall kind of music.

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I'm so-so with Heartattack and Vine. I don't dislike it, but for some reason it has just never really reached out and grabbed me like some of his other work.

I will consider it a great thing that you will get to Swordfishtrombones on a Saturday.

Curious to see how it comes across for you, especially after listening all in order like this.


Yeah, I like this record as much or more than Blue Valentine. I'm actually considering upping my Waits listening to ratio today and upping Swordfishtrombones and Rain Dogs today because I'll be out of the office most of Monday and likely Tuesday and then out of town for the remainder of the week, and I really wanted to hit those two back to back before we head into his latter day albums.

Incidentally, I'm skipping One from the Heart and the rest of his soundtrack and live albums until the very end.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:20 am 
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I'm actually listening to Franks Wild Years right now, another of my favorite Waits albums. Also totally love the track by the same name on Swordfishtrombones. This thread has me splurging on a bit of Waits myself. For me, you've got a lot of the highlights coming up real soon now...although I do think you've already hit a couple with some of the stuff on heart of Saturday Night and Blue Valentine. But Waits does seem like one of those artists where people kind of carve out their own little niche of favorites and highlights. I've seldom heard two Tom Waits fans who agree on what the highlights and low points really are.


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Between the release of Heartattack and Vine in 1980 and Swordfishtrombones in 1983, Tom Waits got rid of his manager, his producer, and his record company. And he drastically altered a musical approach that had become as dependable as it was unexciting. Swordfishtrombones has none of the strings and much less of the piano work that Waits' previous albums had employed; instead, the dominant sounds on the record were low-pitched horns, bass instruments, and percussion, set in spare, close-miked arrangements (most of them by Waits) that sometimes were better described as "soundscapes." Lyrically, Waits' tales of the drunken and the lovelorn have been replaced by surreal accounts of people who burned down their homes and of Australian towns bypassed by the railroad -- a world (not just a neighborhood) of misfits now have his attention. The music can be primitive, moving to odd time signatures, while Waits alternately howls and wheezes in his gravelly bass voice. He seems to have moved on from Hoagy Carmichael and Louis Armstrong to Kurt Weill and Howlin' Wolf (as impersonated by Captain Beefheart). Waits seems to have had trouble interesting a record label in the album, which was cut 13 months before it was released, but when it appeared, rock critics predictably raved: after all, it sounded weird and it didn't have a chance of selling. Actually, it did make the bottom of the best-seller charts, like most of Waits' albums, and now that he was with a label based in Europe, even charted there. Artistically, Swordfishtrombones marked an evolution of which Waits had not seemed capable (though there were hints of this sound on his last two Asylum albums), and in career terms it reinvented him.

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Pretty sure the number on the button that corresponds with Swordfishtrombones in the *Nowhere Bar's jukebox is worn off.

* a bar in Athens,GA where shady shit went and goes down and lines of coke were done off piss and beer stained toilets while smoke from Camel Lights permeated your every pore.


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There is a Tom Waits album between between Heartattack and Vine and Swordfishtrombones, the soundtrack to Coppola's "One From the Heart", which features duets with Crystal Gayle.




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I think he was skipping that one intentionally, stu.

When I was dissing Blue Valentine earlier in this thread, I think the album that I was thinking of was One from the Heart. Don't know why I'd mix the two up.


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Meh, it's a mood piece to go with a stylized movie. Worthwhile listen for a completist and I think we're trying to listen to his full studio output, right?


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Yeah, sure. He just said somewhere up there that he was skipping soundtracks and live performances until the end.

I can see the logic in skipping live discs, but not necessarily soundtracks that were essentially full studio albums. I may listen to One from the Heart after Heart Attack. Thanks for putting it up.


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Meh, it's a mood piece to go with a stylized movie. Worthwhile listen for a completist and I think we're trying to listen to his full studio output, right?


I have it, but it isn't technically a Waits studio album. Most have it listed as Waits/Gayle. Like I mentioned, I'm listening to the "others", soundtrack, proper live albums etc. after the studio run.

Swordfishtrombones isn't nearly as abrasive as I was thought it would be, based upon some of your comments. I was expecting his version of Trout Mask Replica. Mind you, 'Underground' had me a little concerned, but it's more a natural evolution of what he was doing with Heartattack.

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Pretty sure the number on the button that corresponds with Swordfishtrombones in the *Nowhere Bar's jukebox is worn off.

* a bar in Athens,GA where shady shit went and goes down and lines of coke were done off piss and beer stained toilets while smoke from Camel Lights permeated your every pore.



And, on "The Official Locking Bathroom Tour" of Athens ;)

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I think the closest Waits ever gets to having his own Trout Mask Replica is The Black Rider, but again, it's a fairly natural evolution from Bone Machine. And nothing in his catalog is remotely as rough-hewn TRM.


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