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Well known celebrities that have expressed their disdain for rock music.

Woody Allen-Woody has goofed on rock in some of his movies and says he just never got it. He has said that many people who's opinion he respects love it and so admits that the problem may just be with him.

Steve Allen-Allen helped create the modern late night talk show and gave exposure to many rock & roll artists, but he always hated the shit. In later years part of his act was just to go on stage and recite lyrics from popular rock songs which would get big laughs. He also claimed to have written 5000 songs. Name 1.

Clint Eastwood-Also says he never got rock & roll. He'd rather listen to "the source" which he considers the blues or jazz which he considers one of the few truly all American music forms.

Any others?


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Joan Jett's song was actually ironic.

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Kelly Leak Wrote:

Clint Eastwood-Also says he never got rock & roll. He'd rather listen to "the source" which he considers the blues or jazz which he considers one of the few truly all American music forms.


This is the perfect example of people who need an ass whipping just based on pretentiousness alone.

I dunno though. I'd guess Ed Sullivan was no fan. Richard Nixon?

Scratch that, Nixon was allegedly spotted at a dead show in 1979 sporting a shaggy black wig and wigging out on strong Blue Unicorn acid. Pat was wearing a mumu and selling veggie burritos on Shakedown.

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Bill Cosby
Frank Sinatra
Karen Duffy (or so I've read. She hated just about everything rock when she was a VJ)
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Yail Bloor Wrote:
Scratch that, Nixon was allegedly spotted at a dead show in 1979 sporting a shaggy black wig and wigging out on strong Blue Unicorn acid. Pat was wearing a mumu and selling veggie burritos on Shakedown.


It was the Seventies. Weird shit happened.

We actually had a presidential candidate - with a serious chance of winning - do a Playboy interview. Said candidate was also an extremely devout Protestant, so we can only imagine he was not so amenable to the magazine's photographic content... But, he knew it was a QUAL periodical, something more than the typical titty mag (i.e. Hustler, or Club), and more akin to Esquire than anything else, anyway. So, yeah...

Imagine that happening today. Will Mitt Romney do a Playboy interview? John Edwards?

Doubt it.

James Earl C. has more balls than the wide-open presidential field of '08 combined. Excepting Hillary...

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Frank Sinatra

Yeah, I should have remembered him. I think he once said the only rock song he ever liked was Mack the Knife and that song is questionable anyway as a rock song.

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Kelly Leak Wrote:
Well known celebrities that have expressed their disdain for rock music.

Woody Allen-Woody has goofed on rock in some of his movies and says he just never got it. He has said that many people who's opinion he respects love it and so admits that the problem may just be with him.

Steve Allen-Allen helped create the modern late night talk show and gave exposure to many rock & roll artists, but he always hated the shit. In later years part of his act was just to go on stage and recite lyrics from popular rock songs which would get big laughs. He also claimed to have written 5000 songs. Name 1.

Clint Eastwood-Also says he never got rock & roll. He'd rather listen to "the source" which he considers the blues or jazz which he considers one of the few truly all American music forms.

Any others?

Does this surprise anyone? Can anyone see any of these guys "rocking out"? As for Clint, the dude's seriously deep into jazz and really knows his stuff, which I applaud. Check out Bird for some proof of his love (both of jazz and Charlier Parker.) Great movie.

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Sergei Bubka Wrote:
It was the Seventies. Weird shit happened.

We actually had a presidential candidate - with a serious chance of winning - do a Playboy interview. Said candidate was also an extremely devout Protestant, so we can only imagine he was not so amenable to the magazine's photographic content... But, he knew it was a QUAL periodical, something more than the typical titty mag (i.e. Hustler, or Club), and more akin to Esquire than anything else, anyway. So, yeah...

Imagine that happening today. Will Mitt Romney do a Playboy interview? John Edwards?

Doubt it.

James Earl C. has more balls than the wide-open presidential field of '08 combined. Excepting Hillary...

[/rim.shot]


Agreed. Though, as a high school senior in '92 I remember being surprised/excited to get home from school and find that my new Rolling Stone had come complete with an interview with Slick Willy.

Playboy used to do some heavy interviews. They still do to some extent but the magazine on the whole used to be more literary and intelligent if not altogether classier. Heff's daughter is dancing close to Maxim-ville in her editorial leadership.

Edit: And Steve, no pres. candidate would ever say "I have lust in my heart" again. Ever.

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Mot, no hoople Wrote:
Kelly Leak Wrote:
Well known celebrities that have expressed their disdain for rock music.

Woody Allen-Woody has goofed on rock in some of his movies and says he just never got it. He has said that many people who's opinion he respects love it and so admits that the problem may just be with him.

Steve Allen-Allen helped create the modern late night talk show and gave exposure to many rock & roll artists, but he always hated the shit. In later years part of his act was just to go on stage and recite lyrics from popular rock songs which would get big laughs. He also claimed to have written 5000 songs. Name 1.

Clint Eastwood-Also says he never got rock & roll. He'd rather listen to "the source" which he considers the blues or jazz which he considers one of the few truly all American music forms.

Any others?

Does this surprise anyone? Can anyone see any of these guys "rocking out"? As for Clint, the dude's seriously deep into jazz and really knows his stuff, which I applaud. Check out Bird for some proof of his love (both of jazz and Charlier Parker.) Great movie.

It's just a list. Wasn't condemning anyone for not appreciating rock & roll, although, Steve Allen struck me as being a bit pompous. And, yeah, I know of Clint's love for jazz.

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Yail Bloor Wrote:
Sergei Bubka Wrote:
It was the Seventies. Weird shit happened.

We actually had a presidential candidate - with a serious chance of winning - do a Playboy interview. Said candidate was also an extremely devout Protestant, so we can only imagine he was not so amenable to the magazine's photographic content... But, he knew it was a QUAL periodical, something more than the typical titty mag (i.e. Hustler, or Club), and more akin to Esquire than anything else, anyway. So, yeah...

Imagine that happening today. Will Mitt Romney do a Playboy interview? John Edwards?

Doubt it.

James Earl C. has more balls than the wide-open presidential field of '08 combined. Excepting Hillary...

[/rim.shot]


Agreed. Though, as a high school senior in '92 I remember being surprised/excited to get home from school and find that my new Rolling Stone had come complete with an interview with Slick Willy.

Playboy used to do some heavy interviews. They still do to some extent but the magazine on the whole used to be more literary and intelligent if not altogether classier. Heff's daughter is dancing close to Maxim-ville in her editorial leadership.

Edit: And Steve, no pres. candidate would ever say "I have lust in my heart" again. Ever.


It's definitely gotten lower brow, but I think that it still has life, and could pursue more a literary appeal... To be honest, though - maybe after Hef dies?

I know he still picks the centerfolds, and I doubt that he ceded all editorial control re: written content to others. So I think, due his dotage, that the 'zine is turning too far toward the college crowd... Only dating twenty years old college dropouts probably doesn't help, either.

fake edit: Have you seen that E! reality [sic] show, Girls Next Door, about Hef's three current girlfriends? I caught one episode, and when Hef took the party posse out to eat, he got really ornery - like many eighty years old people - when the food wasn't ready after forty-five minutes. He was banging silverware on the table and smarting off to the girls... It was funny.

When I told my mom of this though, she said she'd read that there are reports that Hef's been "acting weird". She speculated that he's been having mini-strokes - he had a major one twenty years ago - to account for the seeming senility.

real edit: That's the Rolling Stone interview where Clinton spoke of his desire to put one hundred thousand more cops on the street... in the presence of Hunter (who took it as a direct threat, and had to be talked down from the ledge, so to speak, by P.J. O'Rourke and Jann Wenner).


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I'm chalking this up to an age thing.

Eastwood is in his 70s, right? My grandfather doesn't exactly rock out, unless you count Johnny Cash every once in a while.

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i like thinking about clint eastwood just being a big jazzhead, listening to vinyl in a den with animal heads on the walls and reading something like 'new yorker' or 'pc user' or something.

actually, i think i'd just like clint eastwood to be my uncle or something


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i like thinking about clint eastwood just being a big jazzhead, listening to vinyl in a den with animal heads on the walls and reading something like 'new yorker' or 'pc user' or something.

actually, i think i'd just like clint eastwood to be my uncle or something


no offense, but he hates people like you.

me too, just to a lesser degree. :wink:

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I'm chalking this up to an age thing.

Eastwood is in his 70s, right? My grandfather doesn't exactly rock out, unless you count Johnny Cash every once in a while.

Yeah, but he was a relatively young guy when Elvis cut his first single. My Dad is 66 and likes pre Beatles rock & roll.

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katie, a princess Wrote:
i like thinking about clint eastwood just being a big jazzhead, listening to vinyl in a den with animal heads on the walls and reading something like 'new yorker' or 'pc user' or something.

actually, i think i'd just like clint eastwood to be my uncle or something


no offense, but he hates people like you.

me too, just to a lesser degree. :wink:

i'm not sure what you mean, but i'll wink too. :wink:


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Winton Marsalis


add "any jazz made after 1958" to his list.


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I thought this was going to be an anti-"Rock N Roll" thread, with all the Ryan Adams talk that's been goin' around...

I was gonna have to bust some caps, post haste...

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I thought this was going to be an anti-"Rock N Roll" thread, with all the Ryan Adams talk that's been goin' around...

I was gonna have to bust some cyanide capsules in my mouth, post haste, for liking that record...


It's a stretch, but I stand by it.


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katie, a princess Wrote:
Yail Bloor Wrote:
katie, a princess Wrote:
i like thinking about clint eastwood just being a big jazzhead, listening to vinyl in a den with animal heads on the walls and reading something like 'new yorker' or 'pc user' or something.

actually, i think i'd just like clint eastwood to be my uncle or something


no offense, but he hates people like you.

me too, just to a lesser degree. :wink:

i'm not sure what you mean, but i'll wink too. :wink:


You're female, liberal and write about rock music. I cant imagine he would have much use.

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I'm pretty sure Groucho Marx hated all rock music I haven't read his autobiography in 10 years or something so I'm not completely sure.

Perhaps it's no coincidence he died in 1977.

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Yail Bloor Wrote:
katie, a princess Wrote:
Yail Bloor Wrote:
katie, a princess Wrote:
i like thinking about clint eastwood just being a big jazzhead, listening to vinyl in a den with animal heads on the walls and reading something like 'new yorker' or 'pc user' or something.

actually, i think i'd just like clint eastwood to be my uncle or something


no offense, but he hates people like you.

me too, just to a lesser degree. :wink:

i'm not sure what you mean, but i'll wink too. :wink:


You're female, liberal and write about rock music. I cant imagine he would have much use.

i wouldn't consider myself a liberal, really. female? indisputable.


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Oh, my dad LOVES rock music, almost to an embarrassing level. He only knows what's on the radio though, so he never knows about the stuff I'm listening to. So, he's 52, and owns all of Kid Rock's cds. He also loves Maroon 5. I hate riding in the car with him.

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Kelly Leak Wrote:
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I'm chalking this up to an age thing.

Eastwood is in his 70s, right? My grandfather doesn't exactly rock out, unless you count Johnny Cash every once in a while.

Yeah, but he was a relatively young guy when Elvis cut his first single. My Dad is 66 and likes pre Beatles rock & roll.

Steve


Okay, I overshot a bit. My grandfather is creeping up on 78, and Clint is 75. I thought he was a bit older.

Maybe his dislike of rock 'n' roll explains why his face is all scrunched up all the time.

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Some others who seems to hate rock and roll, or at least want to kill it:

Creed
Matchbox 20/rob whatever
insert current billboard top 10 here
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The Jesus & Mary Chain have kind of a love/hate relationship with it.


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