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There is an article in the new Rolling Stone on Rick Rubin.

Dude is not such a definitive "sounding" producer like say a Jon Brion but he is undoubtedly one of, if not the, most successful producer of the past 25 years. His work is pretty unfuckwithable actually.

The hype on this Neil Diamond album with him is already HUGE. I enjoy the Diamond personally so I hope that this project is aces.

I'm fucking REALLY interested to see what Dr. Rubin does with the Dixie Chicks; clown me all you like, but I like 'em.

Amazing Rick Rubin-produced album not mentioned in that article: Armed Love by the International Noise Conspiracy; an album that had I realized that it was eligible, would have ranked #2 for me last year in the rankings.

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is he producing this in name or is he actually gonna set foot in the studio this time?

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is he producing this in name or is he actually gonna set foot in the studio this time?


as opposed to???

the issue of him being "hands off" is adressed in the article. Flea refutes it. John Cash could not be reached for comment but his legacy sent a big Thanks and sold a few more albums.

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I thought it was a interesting article. I've always enjoyed his stuff.

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Yail Bloor Wrote:
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is he producing this in name or is he actually gonna set foot in the studio this time?


as opposed to???

the issue of him being "hands off" is adressed in the article. Flea refutes it. John Cash could not be reached for comment but his legacy sent a big Thanks and sold a few more albums.


yeah but of course he's gonna produce the chili peppers and Cash. He probably woulda done that for free. Even if the album sucks he's gonna get a huge amount of recognition/credit. what about that shitty paloalto album, or another of the 50 or so his name appears on per year from the smaller acts he produces, not the surefire money makers? Listen I appreciate the guy for countless records that I know he in fact did produce. But there's a LOT of shit floating around about times he didn't even meet the band he supposedly produced. I forget if it was on this board or CMJ that somebody produced this whole thing against him. But I'm inclined to believe it.

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I thought it was a interesting article. I've always enjoyed his stuff.


This does not surprise me.




We should launch a series of threads about producers and start reaLLY seeing who knows whats what, eh?

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did he produce the Chili Peppers "By The Way"? i absolutely love the sound on that album.


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He's producing the next Ours album, I'm expecting greatness.


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did he produce the Chili Peppers "By The Way"? i absolutely love the sound on that album.


Indeed he did.

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yeah but of course he's gonna produce the chili peppers and Cash. He probably woulda done that for free. Even if the album sucks he's gonna get a huge amount of recognition/credit. what about that shitty paloalto album, or another of the 50 or so his name appears on per year from the smaller acts he produces, not the surefire money makers? Listen I appreciate the guy for countless records that I know he in fact did produce. But there's a LOT of shit floating around about times he didn't even meet the band he supposedly produced. I forget if it was on this board or CMJ that somebody produced this whole thing against him. But I'm inclined to believe it.


hey, i'm inclined to take all the stories on guy at 50/50, just like I do with everybody.

but there is something undeniable about this bastard.

and as to the freaking 18,882 executive producer credits he gets every year, I believe that is whats called a "revenue stream"

in case you havent noticed, dudes like rick rubin and russell "dust" simmons aint exactly living in single-wides.

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did he produce the Chili Peppers "By The Way"? i absolutely love the sound on that album.


Indeed he did.


Right on then.


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you don't think he could live a year off of one chili peppers credit line (or two, doesn't he usually get an engineer credit there as well?)? from the way he tells it all he does is yoga, meditate, and produce records. he certainly doesn't dress like a multi-millionaire.

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yeah but of course he's gonna produce the chili peppers and Cash. He probably woulda done that for free. Even if the album sucks he's gonna get a huge amount of recognition/credit. what about that shitty paloalto album, or another of the 50 or so his name appears on per year from the smaller acts he produces, not the surefire money makers? Listen I appreciate the guy for countless records that I know he in fact did produce. But there's a LOT of shit floating around about times he didn't even meet the band he supposedly produced. I forget if it was on this board or CMJ that somebody produced this whole thing against him. But I'm inclined to believe it.


hey, i'm inclined to take all the stories on guy at 50/50, just like I do with everybody.

but there is something undeniable about this bastard.

and as to the freaking 18,882 executive producer credits he gets every year, I believe that is whats called a "revenue stream"

in case you havent noticed, dudes like rick rubin and russell "dust" simmons aint exactly living in single-wides.


Bloor and I differ for sure on that Palo Alto album, which I definitely enjoy

Rubin has the best job in the world for people like us: He gets to hang in a studio and say "this is good" or "try this" and "you wanna cover this song?" and get paid the massive cash for it.

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did he produce the Chili Peppers "By The Way"? i absolutely love the sound on that album.


Indeed he did.


Right on then.


Listen to BloodSugarSexMajik; besides Siamese Dream and Teatro, it is maybe the most sonically well produced album of the 1990's

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Yail Bloor Wrote:
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did he produce the Chili Peppers "By The Way"? i absolutely love the sound on that album.


Indeed he did.


Right on then.


Listen to BloodSugarSexMajik; besides Siamese Dream and Teatro, it is maybe the most sonically well produced album of the 1990's


yeah, i knew he did BSSM. need to bust that out again, and listen to it side by side with By The Way.


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you don't think he could live a year off of one chili peppers credit line (or two, doesn't he usually get an engineer credit there as well?)? from the way he tells it all he does is yoga, meditate, and produce records. he certainly doesn't dress like a multi-millionaire.


hes not much of an engineer

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yeah, i knew he did BSSM. need to bust that out again, and listen to it side by side with By The Way.


I absolutely despised By The Way the first time I heard it; I've grown to like some of the singles....pretty weak album overall.

BSSM is a truly incredibly sounding record. Even if you are a fan of Slovak era Peppers and dismiss their commercial shit, you have to give this record props. Sonically it is a masterpiece.

It is also in the Yail Bloor/Busty Rhodes canon of albums that we can discuss for hours on end.

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yeah, i knew he did BSSM. need to bust that out again, and listen to it side by side with By The Way.


I absolutely despised By The Way the first time I heard it; I've grown to like some of the singles....pretty weak album overall.

BSSM is a truly incredibly sounding record. Even if you are a fan of Slovak era Peppers and dismiss their commercial shit, you have to give this record props. Sonically it is a masterpiece.

It is also in the Yail Bloor/Busty Rhodes canon of albums that we can discuss for hours on end.


It does sound fucking amazing. I haven't listened to it in awhile. I think I need to hear some Breaking the Girl soon.

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yeah, i knew he did BSSM. need to bust that out again, and listen to it side by side with By The Way.


I absolutely despised By The Way the first time I heard it; I've grown to like some of the singles....pretty weak album overall.



i actually dig By The Way a lot. one of my favs of their's actually. the slower, mellower songs on it are the finer moments for me.


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you could argue that Butch Vig is behnd the most sonically well produced album of the 1990's and it doesn't help him to suck any less.

I like Rubin, but I think in the past ten years or so he's been either streched way too thin, phoning too much in, or just doesn't show up to some of thee gigs. I've only heard allegations to the one.

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you could argue that Butch Vig is behnd the most sonically well produced album of the 1990's and it doesn't help him to suck any less.

I like Rubin, but I think in the past ten years or so he's been either streched way too thin, phoning too much in, or just doesn't show up to some of thee gigs. I've only heard allegations to the one.


I guess I could argue about anything.....But here I'm arguing about Rick Rubin and trying to lure people into an argument because in 7 minutes I can go home (maybe). :P

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We'll do our best then.

All I know about Rubin is that his name is associated with a lot of work that I like. BSSM is a great album, and I've liked "By The Way" (the title track) ever since I first heard it... though I'm anxious for a cover band to do a medley of that and Interpol's "Obstacle 1."

He added to the Cash legacy. You can't argue with that, especially since it seems to have started a trend (Jack White + Loretta Lynn, anyone?).


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And Colin, can I point out that he produced Liscenced to Ill, Raising Hell, and the first LL joint?

and Slayer's Rein In Blood.





and still, nobody will give props to Armed Love. Have you guys just not ever heard that album or am I crazy? I'll put it up on YSI when I get back to Redlands. PM if youd like a listen. I believe ive got some tasty B-sides (your host: LooGars big brother) of INC as well.

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you could argue that Butch Vig is behnd the most sonically well produced album of the 1990's and it doesn't help him to suck any less.


I always liked Butch's work too. His stuff usually sounds pretty great.

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