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for school, I have to keep up with a sketchbook.. and I do it anyways, but I kind of want to draw different infamous serial killers throughout history. Do you all have any you can recommend, and if so, post pictures and full names so I can find them.
I need to be drawing more, anyways.


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John Wayne Gacy
Ed Gein (sp) inspiration for both Psyco, and Texas Chainsaw Massacre
BTK Killer
Zodiac Killer (unsolved)
Green River Killer (Washington State prostie slayer)
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Henry Lee Lucas. He has this fucked up eye from being whacked in face with a ruler--the kind with the metal straight edge. His buddy Ottis Toole is pretty cute, too.

I would post pics but I'm at work. Gimme a few hours, though. They shouldn't be too hard to find.

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Draw Jack the Ripper.

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Wayne Williams, perhaps?

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Son of Sam (claims he didn't like dogs)
Ed Kemper (didn't like his mother)
Richard Rameriaz (very rock and roll, loves his AC/DC)

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Yail Bloor Wrote:
Wayne Williams, perhaps?


STOP IT RIGHT NOW. (I am posting from under my bed after reading that name)

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I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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JUST LOOK AT THAT GODDAMN PICTURE, BUBBA. Look at the dude behind Wayne (left of the pic) and his sheer discgust, and then look at Sherriff's Deputy Bubba "Rape" Jones manning that double barrel on the right. I mean, shit was heavy...."It's 8 o'clock Atlanta, do you know where your children are?"

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harry Wrote:
I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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More on Henry Lee Lucas. His father was an incapacitated drunk, and his mother was an obese Appalachian whore. She would turn tricks on the living room couch for a quarter. Twenty-five cents. With the kids in the room. Ol' Hank did her in some years later for his first murder & conviction.

Ottis Toole lost his virginity to a dead calf. His brother fucked it, then killed it so Ottis could fuck it. He fucked all sorts of animals, then met up with Henry in Jacksonville. They would suck each other off while looking for hitchikers, which apparently soon caused some friction between Lucas and his young wife, who just so happened to be Toole's teenaged niece.

Toole also claimed to have murdered & beheaded Adam Walsh, which kickstarted the showbiz career of John Walsh, the "America's Most Wanted" host.

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Senator LooGAR's #9 Dream Wrote:

"It's 8 o'clock Atlanta, do you know where your children are?"


Seven year old Yail Bloor: "Dead"

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More on Henry Lee Lucas. His father was an incapacitated drunk, and his mother was an obese Appalachian whore. She would turn tricks on the living room couch for a quarter. Twenty-five cents. With the kids in the room. Ol' Hank did her in some years later for his first murder & conviction.

Ottis Toole lost his virginity to a dead calf. His brother fucked it, then killed it so Ottis could fuck it. He fucked all sorts of animals, then met up with Henry in Jacksonville. They would suck each other off while looking for hitchikers, which apparently soon caused some friction between Lucas and his young wife, who just so happened to be Toole's teenaged niece.

Toole also claimed to have murdered & beheaded Adam Walsh, which kickstarted the showbiz career of John Walsh, the "America's Most Wanted" host.


WOW...All I gots to say. $.25...I'd fuh


Oh, and don't fucking bring up John Walsh, cos now Bloor and I gonna have 19 page gargument about whether he would trade his fame for his son's life.

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harry Wrote:
I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

FT Wrote:
LooGAR (the straw that stirs the drink)


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Elvis Fu Wrote:
More on Henry Lee Lucas. His father was an incapacitated drunk, and his mother was an obese Appalachian whore. She would turn tricks on the living room couch for a quarter. Twenty-five cents. With the kids in the room. Ol' Hank did her in some years later for his first murder & conviction.

Ottis Toole lost his virginity to a dead calf. His brother fucked it, then killed it so Ottis could fuck it. He fucked all sorts of animals, then met up with Henry in Jacksonville. They would suck each other off while looking for hitchikers, which apparently soon caused some friction between Lucas and his young wife, who just so happened to be Toole's teenaged niece.

Toole also claimed to have murdered & beheaded Adam Walsh, which kickstarted the showbiz career of John Walsh, the "America's Most Wanted" host.
I lost of how many things are fucked up about this story. It's like one of those "how many things can you find wrong with this picture" games? (Not only is the Penguin walking on water and not ice, it's also freakin' Hawaii...)

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I don't know about all those stories regarding Henry Lee and Otis. None of those things would surprise me, but all of these guys are pathological liars. Henry had confessed and recanted about 7 times regarding all of his crimes.

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cp if at all possible, you should look into Joe Coleman's paintings, not only because they tend to dwell on subject matter that would help you with this project, but also because they're fucking awesome works. He tends to divide the paintings into sections, telling pieces of his subject's lives (mostly dead carnie/serial killer/musician types...houdini, hank williams, hasil adkins, himself...) inside the painting, which ultimately looks like a homemade Life board with better art. He did a really interesting on of this guy:
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that I can't seem to find on google right now, but i'm sure is out there somewhere. his site is www.joecoleman.com. Fish always creeped me out so much more than a Gein or Kemper or Dahmer because he was so fucking old yet totally fucking sick person. He looks like a grandfather, and a nice one at that. my 2 cents.



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Senator LooGAR's #9 Dream Wrote:
"It's 8 o'clock Atlanta, do you know where your children are?"

Seven year old Yail Bloor: "Dead"


Was WW the Atlanta child killer? I thought that kids kept going missing after this.

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Was WW the Atlanta child killer? I thought that kids kept going missing after this.


Yeah, the murders didnt stop per se but they slowed down and then stopped pretty soon after.

No matter, everyone knows it was the Klan anyways.

I will say though that being a little kid in the Atlanta area was a little scary at that point.

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Cotton Wrote:
cp if at all possible, you should look into Joe Coleman's paintings, not only because they tend to dwell on subject matter that would help you with this project, but also because they're fucking awesome works. He tends to divide the paintings into sections, telling pieces of his subject's lives (mostly dead carnie/serial killer/musician types...houdini, hank williams, hasil adkins, himself...) inside the painting, which ultimately looks like a homemade Life board with better art. He did a really interesting on of this guy:
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that I can't seem to find on google right now, but i'm sure is out there somewhere. his site is www.joecoleman.com. Fish always creeped me out so much more than a Gein or Kemper or Dahmer because he was so fucking old yet totally fucking sick person. He looks like a grandfather, and a nice one at that. my 2 cents.



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Senator LooGAR's #9 Dream Wrote:
"It's 8 o'clock Atlanta, do you know where your children are?"

Seven year old Yail Bloor: "Dead"


Was WW the Atlanta child killer? I thought that kids kept going missing after this.


Didn't Albert Fish kill little girls?

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little kids in general. there's the famous letter he sent to the parents of Gracie Budd, describing how he ate their daughter. i'm sure it's on the internet somewhere.

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little kids in general. there's the famous letter he sent to the parents of Gracie Budd, describing how he ate their daughter. i'm sure it's on the internet somewhere.


Yeah, that dude is extremely creepy.

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Was WW the Atlanta child killer? I thought that kids kept going missing after this.


The physical evidence on him was pretty weak too, if I remember correctly. I thought the Klan was effectively ruled out as being involved based on the nature of crimes.

I'll second Albert Fish as one of the creepiest. He was also the one who kept inserting needles and other objects into his own genitals.

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Yeah, that dude is extremely creepy.


oh, he hella creepy alright. This makes Jack the Ripper's letters lookj like Shel Silverstein. Much better speller, too.

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My dear Mrs. Budd,

In 1894 a friend of mine shipped as a deck hand on the Steamer Tacoma, Capt. John Davis. They sailed from San Francisco for Hong Kong, China. On arriving there he and two others went ashore and got drunk. When they returned the boat was gone.

At that time there was famine in China. Meat of any kind was from $1 to 3 Dollars a pound. So great was the suffering among the very poor that all children under 12 were sold for food in order to keep others from starving. A boy or girl under 14 was not safe in the street. You could go in any shop and ask for steak—chops—or stew meat. Part of the naked body of a boy or girl would be brought out and just what you wanted cut from it. A boy or girls behind which is the sweetest part of the body and sold as veal cutlet brought the highest price.

John staid there so long he acquired a taste for human flesh. On his return to N.Y. he stole two boys one 7 one 11. Took them to his home stripped them naked tied them in a closet. Then burned everything they had on. Several times every day and night he spanked them—tortured them—to make their meat good and tender.

First he killed the 11 year old boy, because he had the fattest ass and of course the most meat on it. Every part of his body was Cooked and eaten except the head—bones and guts. He was Roasted in the oven (all of his ass), boiled, broiled, fried and stewed. The little boy was next, went the same way. At that time, I was living at 409 E 100 st., near—right side. He told me so often how good Human flesh was I made up my mind to taste it.

On Sunday June the 3—1928 I called on you at 406 W 15 St. Brought you pot cheese—strawberries. We had lunch. Grace sat in my lap and kissed me. I made up my mind to eat her.

On the pretense of taking her to a party. You said Yes she could go. I took her to an empty house in Westchester I had already picked out. When we got there, I told her to remain outside. She picked wildflowers. I went upstairs and stripped all my clothes off. I knew if I did not I would get her blood on them.

When all was ready I went to the window and Called her. Then I hid in a closet until she was in the room. When she saw me all naked she began to cry and tried to run down the stairs. I grabbed her and she said she would tell her mamma.

First I stripped her naked. How she did kick—bite and scratch. I choked her to death, then cut her in small pieces so I could take my meat to my rooms. Cook and eat it. How sweet and tender her little ass was roasted in the oven. It took me 9 days to eat her entire body. I did not fuck her tho I could of had I wished. She died a virgin.

The police immediately set about tracing the sender, and the following month, on December 13, Fish was arrested.

He led the police to the cottage where he had killed Grace, where her skull was found buried in the garden.

Fish confessed murdering several other children, including a four-year-old boy he claimed to have dismembered alive and eaten in 1927, and a fifteen-year-old girl murdered in 1932.

Eventually, authorities tied Fish to the murders of fifteen children and the molestation of many others. He was, however, only charged with the murder of Grace Budd.


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Just google albert fish and click the first link. I don't know when will be able to sleep again.[/i]

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America's first serial killer - H.H. Holmes

A true sick fuck. His story is part of the crux of the excellent book The Devil in the White City: Murder, Magic, and Madness at the Fair that Changed America
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Just google albert fish and click the first link. I don't know when will be able to sleep again


No shit. HOLY FUCK!!! :shock:

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i can't believe they tore that house down. can you imagine being one ot the like 30 cvontractors that built that joint and thinking "yeah, the slide goes through the flood into the vat of acid, and there are gas valves in the bedroom, but i'm sure the kitchen is lovely"

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