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Pick one and only one artist or band to define rock'n'roll. Let's pretend someone has no knowledge of music at all. What would be the one artist you would play them to describe rock'n'roll.

I'd pick Jerry Lee Lewis

Edit: Typed this fast before I left for lunch, and I'm an idiot who misspelled his name.

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I tried to find somebody of that sort that I could like that nobody else did - because everybody would adopt his group, and his group would be _it_; someone weird like Captain Beefheart. It's no different now - people trying to outdo ! each other in extremes. There are people who like X, and there are people who say X are wimps; they like Black Flag.


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I would start with Ike Turner's 'Rocket 88' then discuss its evolution.

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Yeah, I don't see how you can go with anyone other than Berry.

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Yeah, I don't see how you can go with anyone other than Berry.


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Just listened to "The Great 28" yesterday so this one's easy.

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Here I would have to go with the Beatles- because their output would give that person tastes of genres that Berry doesnt (not to say that Berry doesnt represent RnR but that it doesnt hint as certain genres that are part of RnR's history)


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Just listened to "The Great 28" yesterday so this one's easy.

ysiplskthx...and why are you not on aim? I'm actually doing WORK and shit.

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Yail Blood Wrote:
Just listened to "The Great 28" yesterday so this one's easy.

ysiplskthx...and why are you not on aim? I'm actually doing WORK and shit.


I gotta go back towards J-Rock. I hadda come to Redlands to load up some shit and decided to eat lunch here and dick around for an hour.

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Ike Turner (performed by Jackie Brenton)- Rocket 88 - 1951

Chuck Berry - Maybellene - 1955 - prolly the first full combo of the rock n roll form combining country & blues

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Chuck Berry is a great one. I'd probably go with that too.

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Either Chuck Berry or Primal Scream, depending on which definiteion we're using.

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not a huge fan really, but the stones come to mind.


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Dunwoody Doom! Wrote:
Yeah, I don't see how you can go with anyone other than Berry.

I dunno. I think a case could be made for Jerry Lee Lewis, just 'cuz the separate elements of country, hillbilly, and rhythm'n'blues are more overt than in Berry's work. Little Richard would be a decent choice as well, because he really showcased the gospel roots of the devil's moozik.

Of course, the one artist that REALLY ties all those elements up into one tidy package is Elvis. Plus he added that white androgynous sexuality that has pretty much defined the rock star for 50 years now.


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I'm gonna say Little Richard as well, because he single-handedly invented rock-n-roll, after he beat the astronauts to the moon and cured polio.

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Dunwoody Doom! Wrote:
Yeah, I don't see how you can go with anyone other than Berry.

I dunno. I think a case could be made for Jerry Lee Lewis, just 'cuz the separate elements of country, hillbilly, and rhythm'n'blues are more overt than in Berry's work. Little Richard would be a decent choice as well, because he really showcased the gospel roots of the devil's moozik.

Of course, the one artist that REALLY ties all those elements up into one tidy package is Elvis. Plus he added that white androgynous sexuality that has pretty much defined the rock star for 50 years now.


Dead on. I support this message.

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Ratcliffe Wrote:
Dunwoody Doom! Wrote:
Yeah, I don't see how you can go with anyone other than Berry.

I dunno. I think a case could be made for Jerry Lee Lewis, just 'cuz the separate elements of country, hillbilly, and rhythm'n'blues are more overt than in Berry's work. Little Richard would be a decent choice as well, because he really showcased the gospel roots of the devil's moozik.

Of course, the one artist that REALLY ties all those elements up into one tidy package is Elvis. Plus he added that white androgynous sexuality that has pretty much defined the rock star for 50 years now.


To me Jerry Lee had a little more "fuck you" quality and was a little more dangerous than Elvis. But I agree with everything you wrote.

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I tried to find somebody of that sort that I could like that nobody else did - because everybody would adopt his group, and his group would be _it_; someone weird like Captain Beefheart. It's no different now - people trying to outdo ! each other in extremes. There are people who like X, and there are people who say X are wimps; they like Black Flag.


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My immediate thought was The Who's 'My Generation', something loud and rebellious.

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Dunwoody Doom! Wrote:
Yeah, I don't see how you can go with anyone other than Berry.

I dunno. I think a case could be made for Jerry Lee Lewis, just 'cuz the separate elements of country, hillbilly, and rhythm'n'blues are more overt than in Berry's work. Little Richard would be a decent choice as well, because he really showcased the gospel roots of the devil's moozik.

Of course, the one artist that REALLY ties all those elements up into one tidy package is Elvis. Plus he added that white androgynous sexuality that has pretty much defined the rock star for 50 years now.


To me Jerry Lee had a little more "fuck you" quality and was a little more dangerous than Elvis. But I agree with everything you wrote.


That's why he's "The Killer" and Elvis is "The King"

but yeah, Rads, as usual, nails it. I Love You, Uncle Monger!

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I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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To me Jerry Lee had a little more "fuck you" quality and was a little more dangerous than Elvis. But I agree with everything you wrote.

Jerry Lee had a little more "fuck you" quality than anybody. Dude would've made G.G. Allin shit his pants (involuntarily).


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To me Jerry Lee had a little more "fuck you" quality and was a little more dangerous than Elvis. But I agree with everything you wrote.

Jerry Lee had a little more "fuck you" quality than anybody. Dude would've made G.G. Allin shit his pants (involuntarily).


Well he almost certainly killed at least one of his wives. That certainly ups the baddass.

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oldghoulishlee Wrote:
Ratcliffe Wrote:
Dunwoody Doom! Wrote:
Yeah, I don't see how you can go with anyone other than Berry.

I dunno. I think a case could be made for Jerry Lee Lewis, just 'cuz the separate elements of country, hillbilly, and rhythm'n'blues are more overt than in Berry's work. Little Richard would be a decent choice as well, because he really showcased the gospel roots of the devil's moozik.

Of course, the one artist that REALLY ties all those elements up into one tidy package is Elvis. Plus he added that white androgynous sexuality that has pretty much defined the rock star for 50 years now.


To me Jerry Lee had a little more "fuck you" quality and was a little more dangerous than Elvis. But I agree with everything you wrote.


That's why he's "The Killer" and Elvis is "The King"

but yeah, Rads, as usual, nails it. I Love You, Uncle Monger!


True.
Elvis music doesn't sound that rebellious anymore ( I know that it did), but Jerry Lee still does for me. Same thing with the Stones (still dangerous)and the Beatles (not really). I probably like more Beatles and Elvis songs than Stones and Jerry Lee, but if I'm defining rock'n'roll, I would go with Jerry Lee and the Stones over them.

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