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I thought it was actually quite good.

I think I appreciated when he said, "I am responsible for the decision to go into Iraq". Also, when he said the consequences, whatever they may be, will fall on him.

I also thought that the information about what will come next, in the brief speech, made it seem at the very least that Bush is aware of the debates going on this country as well as taking steps to plan ahead.

I think/wish a president would address the nation once a month. It's helpful.

I know a lot of people on here despise Bush, but I think that the spoken accountability was very respectable at the very least.

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You're right. I hate the fucker.

He's bankrupting this country, and no good will come of it.

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I don't discuss the president on this board anymore. I just leave it at "he's still lying."


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Hegel-oh's Wrote:
I thought it was actually quite good.

I think I appreciated when he said, "I am responsible for the decision to go into Iraq". Also, when he said the consequences, whatever they may be, will fall on him.

I also thought that the information about what will come next, in the brief speech, made it seem at the very least that Bush is aware of the debates going on this country as well as taking steps to plan ahead.

I think/wish a president would address the nation once a month. It's helpful.

I know a lot of people on here despise Bush, but I think that the spoken accountability was very respectable at the very least.

Anyone else?


There's nothing respectable about the man at all. Aware of the debates going on? Let's all give him a gold star, it's still fucking moot. A lot of people are dead that don't have to be, and for that I'll never forgive him. Couldn't send enough troops where they belonged (Afghanistan) and couldn't send too many to somewhere they don't belong (Iraq.) And now, billions of dollars and thousands of lives later, he wants to act all "accountable" and shit. Not much more despicable than a politician attempting to save face. If I outlive the dude, you can guarantee that I'll drop by to spit on his grave.

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I think I appreciated when he said, "I am responsible for the decision to go into Iraq". Also, when he said the consequences, whatever they may be, will fall on him.


I don't think all the dead soldiers and their families appreciated it.

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Hegel-oh's Wrote:
I think I appreciated when he said, "I am responsible for the decision to go into Iraq". Also, when he said the consequences, whatever they may be, will fall on him.


I don't think all the dead soldiers and their families appreciated it.


I am often surprised at how different the families of soldiers and soldiers themselves think compared to the way I think.

And, my appreciation for a president taking responsibility for his actions as well as admitting mistakes, as he did in the speech (which he had never done before), has very little to do with the reaction of what you're guessing military families feel. Not even comparable. it is a logical fallacy to assume that my statement is in any way linked to your statement. They are, in fact, two separate discussions.


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I can think of at least a half dozen reasons to impeach the guy at this point.


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Hegel-oh's Wrote:
shiv Wrote:
Hegel-oh's Wrote:
I think I appreciated when he said, "I am responsible for the decision to go into Iraq". Also, when he said the consequences, whatever they may be, will fall on him.


I don't think all the dead soldiers and their families appreciated it.



And, my appreciation for a president taking responsibility for his actions as well as admitting mistakes, as he did in the speech (which he had never done before), has very little to do with the reaction of what you're guessing military families feel. Not even comparable. it is a logical fallacy to assume that my statement is in any way linked to your statement. They are, in fact, two separate discussions.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHEN YOU TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR DOING THINGS IF YOU CONTINUE TO DO THOSE THINGS. SORRY I RAPED YOUR SISTER, IS SHE HOME?

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STRIKE LIGHTNING, STRIKE Wrote:
Hegel-oh's Wrote:
shiv Wrote:
Hegel-oh's Wrote:
I think I appreciated when he said, "I am responsible for the decision to go into Iraq". Also, when he said the consequences, whatever they may be, will fall on him.


I don't think all the dead soldiers and their families appreciated it.



And, my appreciation for a president taking responsibility for his actions as well as admitting mistakes, as he did in the speech (which he had never done before), has very little to do with the reaction of what you're guessing military families feel. Not even comparable. it is a logical fallacy to assume that my statement is in any way linked to your statement. They are, in fact, two separate discussions.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHEN YOU TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR DOING THINGS IF YOU CONTINUE TO DO THOSE THINGS. SORRY I RAPED YOUR SISTER, IS SHE HOME?


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 Post subject: Re: What? No Presidential address thread?
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There's nothing respectable about the man at all. Aware of the debates going on? Let's all give him a gold star, it's still fucking moot. A lot of people are dead that don't have to be, and for that I'll never forgive him. Couldn't send enough troops where they belonged (Afghanistan) and couldn't send too many to somewhere they don't belong (Iraq.) And now, billions of dollars and thousands of lives later, he wants to act all "accountable" and shit. Not much more despicable than a politician attempting to save face. If I outlive the dude, you can guarantee that I'll drop by to spit on his grave.


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STRIKE LIGHTNING, STRIKE Wrote:
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHEN YOU TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR DOING THINGS IF YOU CONTINUE TO DO THOSE THINGS. SORRY I RAPED YOUR SISTER, IS SHE HOME?


I don't think taking responsibility for something implies that the action was wrong.

"Yes, mom. It was me that washed the dishes after dinner tonight," for example.

However, my stating that I appreciated the responsibility being taken does not mean Bush himself thinks what he did was wrong. What it means to me is that the blood is not on my hands. His statement was to imply that the negative outcomes are his responsibility and the positive ones are his as well. He wasn't admitting that going to war was wrong. He was saying that the decision to do so will come back on him--not you and not me.


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STRIKE LIGHTNING, STRIKE Wrote:
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHEN YOU TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR DOING THINGS IF YOU CONTINUE TO DO THOSE THINGS. SORRY I RAPED YOUR SISTER, IS SHE HOME?


Oh shit. My sides hurt.

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Great thinking there O.
The big shithead feels that if he does something stupid to send thousands of kids to an early grave he will take full responsibility for it. that's mighty white of him considering most of those kids are NOT from the same privileged class as that fucker. And George and his oil buddies will personally reap billions of dollars from the war.
Thanks GEE DUBYA.

The guy can't even speak in full sentences. it's all clipped. clipped. bursts of words. strung together. yeah, that's what I said. But you weren't listening. just these little. tiny grouping of words. yeah, that are put together. that are somewhat connected. and they may have been. at some point. connected at one time. to a full whole sentence.

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The guy can't even speak in full sentences. it's all clipped. clipped. bursts of words. strung together. yeah, that's what I said. But you weren't listening. just these little. tiny grouping of words. yeah, that are put together. that are somewhat connected. and they may have been. at some point. connected at one time. to a full whole sentence.


http://hnn.us/roundup/comments/7511.html

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11 year old footage. Does this mean that as you get older you get dumber? Less able to speak?

Come on FU! you can't be serious?

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"Lakoff confirmed that everything about Bush's surface style was different. His choice of words, the pace of his speech, the length and completeness of his sentences, all made him sound like another person. Even his body language was surprising. When he was younger, Bush leaned toward the camera and did not fidget or shift his weight

musta been drunk er something, wasn't this the period before he was saved by religion?

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I didn't expect you to actually think about that.

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I don't give a crap if the man can speak in full sentences or not.

I do however care if that man has the temerity to claim a president isn't accountable in "wartime" the same way he is in "peacetime" when that president is keeping his invented war going with vague pronouncements of "war on terror."

If I'd seen any hint that we were any closer to getting Bin Laden the past couple of years, Bush may have had grudging support. But when you dare to dismiss the checks and balances set up in this country as not binding because they inconvenience your strategy, you should be removed from office.


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but this is a dictatorship

EDIT: sorry that was a typo: DICKtatership

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but this is a dictatorship


Oh. Forget I said nuthin then.


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