equals the Redwalls.

Hate to be a hater.
But this album pisses me off more each time I hear it.
Maybe it's because I grew up in the same area as these kids and am therefore making presumptions about their upbringing (ultra priveliged)... combined with the pure formula of the whole album.

Oh yeah... they are competent.
And I should love this.

By the way... I know I've touched on this subject before (maybe a couple of times), but I just had to say it again.

And, yes, I DO have to post whatever comes to mind... when I feel like it.

i have been listening to this a bit lately - no final impression yet but it seems like an ok album to me. nothing spectacular but makes for ok background music.

I think that's why I hate it so.
It could have been so much more.

The same thing that makes any critic an expert.
I listen to a lot of music.
And, also... yes, partly because I am a musician. With that experience of actually playing an instrument, I feel like I can make relative judgements on the ability of other musicians.

Feeling confrontational today, Chris?
Take it easy.

I never understood why economics matters in rock'n'roll. So if you're raised in a well-to-do family, you can't be a talented artist? Just doesn't add up. Also I don't understand why we hate the more fortunate without knowing anything about them. Who doesn't want to be rich?

You thought that was confrontational? Confrontational is more like when your wife forbids you to go out with friends.

Black Crowes had a sense of danger? Someone alert the media.


And Todd, I think you said it all in your post - your response to the Redwalls appears to be based on your limited personal knowledge of them. It's interesting that you continue to bash a "competent" rock band that "could have been so much more" while at the same time you can find so many nice ways to pimp the Dixie Chicks. I guess the Chicks came from a suburb you approve of.

It's not about being rich or not.
It's about the overall attitude of the North Shore subirbs of Chicago. I grew up there. You really have to live there to understand, I suppose.
Money only has something to do with it, in that it's everywhere.
It's not the money... it's the sense of privelige that people in the community seem to have. The world is not only their oyster, it's goddamn OWED to them. And the world outside of the North Shore is all hicksville until you reach Philly in the east or Denver in the west.

Ever see Ferris Bueller's Day Off? That was shot in and around my area.
The house where the car goes into the ravine is across the street from a friends' house. Ferris was your typical North Shore teen that I grew up with. The world belonged to him. Maybe he was charming. Maybe not.

Not saying there aren't good people from there. There are a lot of them. But there is an overarching attitude that colors my impression of anything that emerges from there.

Not saying it's fair. Just saying it is.

Back the fuck off my family, Chris.

The limited personal knowledge is only part of it.
If the music delivered for me, I would be more than happy to claim them as one of my own.

Now that's confrontational. See, now you got it.

I live in the South. I think all you fuckers think that way.

man people are pissy lately.

Fuck you, motherfucker. Eat shit and die. Fucker.

go fuck your sister

Southerners are strange. They marry their sisters first, then fuck them. It's the whole Christian thing.

I personally prefer cousins.

I'm already on record not digging the Redwalls. My take was something along the lines of it'll get hype because they're young kids, but they won't be young for long, then they'll be nothing more than a crappy Beatles wannabe band.

That's the fallacy of rock and roll - that it (still) comes from the gutter, hence all the kids in their thrift store gear with the luxury and safety nets in place traveling around in 15 passenger vans. Dirt = Integrity. And people are bothered when someone refuses to fake the whole faux-hobo vibe.

For the longest time I thought "Hard to Handle" was an original Black Crowes song.

Don't forget Wham!

I'm not a fan of this band yet, but I wouldn't be all that surprised if they had an album a few years from now that I really liked.

heh heh.

If you hate this album and it pisses you off to listen to it enough that you've touched on this subject before then what the hell are you doing still listening to it? Are you a glutton for punishment?

Seriously, trade the f'er in, get something you might like, and shut up about it already.

My first time hearing of the redwalls was on MTV. Never a good first impression.

Maybe I am a glutton for punishment.
I keep giving it another chance because, on the surface at least, it is right up my alley. And it is well-executed.

It's been in the "sell" pile before and I pulled it out. But I think it is now time to leave it in there and get myself something that I actually need.

But then, damn... I won't be able to bitch about this record any more!