Favorite NON-VIRTUOSO musicians

PopTodd · **Posted:** Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:20 pm

Who are the musicians that give you the most with a limited amount of chops? Songwriters are a separate category... I'm speaking strictly performace here.

Bass: Peter Hook
Guitar: Ira Kaplan
Vocalist: Jeff Mangum

Yail Bloor · **Posted:** Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:21 pm

Kim Deal

shiv · **Posted:** Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:22 pm

PopTodd Wrote:

Who are the musicians that give you the most with a limited amount of chops? Songwriters are a separate category... I'm speaking strictly performace here.

Bass: Peter Hook
Guitar: Ira Kaplan

Do we include you because of spelling errors?

pollysix · **Joined:** Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:56 am **Posts:** 5174

Chet Baker
Asturd Gilberto
early Cure
Moe Tucker

PopTodd · **Posted:** Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:23 pm

shiv Wrote:

PopTodd Wrote:

Who are the musicians that give you the most with a limited amount of chops? Songwriters are a separate category... I'm speaking strictly performace here.

Bass: Peter Hook
Guitar: Ira Kaplan

Do we include you because of spelling errors?

without a doubt!

Promethium · **Posted:** Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:45 pm

Craig D, drummer for David Dondero
Ian Mackaye/Guy Picciotto
Jacob Thiele of The Faint, Keyboardist

Leon · **Posted:** Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:52 pm

Steve Jones
Kurt Cobain
All of the Ramones

ayah · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:03 pm **Posts:** 6402

the shaggs.

splates · **Posted:** Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:55 pm

what defines someone as a virtuoso?

most of my favourites would be non-virtuosos anyway

billy g · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm **Posts:** 9020

pollysix Wrote:

Asturd Gilberto

You calling her a turd?

If you like Astrud, you need to hear Doris Monteiro. So much better IMHO.

Promethium · **Posted:** Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:51 pm

I forgot my list of vocalist, which to me is one of the most important areas.
Eef Barzelay
Britt Daniel
Beck
Win Butler
Ian Curtis/Paul Banks

fuse · **Posted:** Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:03 pm

Greg Dulli: rarely on key (especially live); gots the mojo.
Louis Prima: kinda a clown; cool-as-shit.

I've heard lots of people blast Paul Simonon from the Clash. I think he's great.

And you know, Miles and Billie Holiday had pretty limited tools, but
changed music as we know it.

greezy · **Posted:** Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:14 pm

tom waits (sloppy and excellent)
hasil adkins
britt daniel
tina weymouth

Sex, Drugs, and Dave · **Posted:** Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:15 pm

no one here has stated the obvious.

Joe Strummer

man made mistakes with more soul than anyone

iron_and_beer · **Posted:** Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:30 pm

Just out of curiosity, what puts Britt Daniel on the list? Voice? Musical ability?

I mean, he plays pretty much every instrument except drums on his albums and has a great voice? I don't mean to be contrary, but are we saying that he's just mediocre at those instruments?

greezy · **Posted:** Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:32 pm

i think its because all of his stuff is pretty minimal. i've read him say in an interview that he can barely play guitar, and the drum parts aren't anything to write home about. but somehow it all forms a delicious popsauce...

Ex Lion Tamer · **Posted:** Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:34 pm

Could be a long list...

Robert Gotobed/BC Gilbert/Colin Newman/Graham Lewis
Elvis Costello
Neil Young
Sterling Morrison
Will Sargeant
Andy Rourke (Smiths bass player)
Bruce Foxton (Jam Bass player)
Peter Hook
Miles Davis
Andy Gill
Isaac Brock
Dean Wareham
Tina Weymouth

no guru · **Posted:** Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:41 am

Debbie Gibson

(also Dylan and Strummer)

Kit · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:47 pm **Posts:** 3052

Jason Martin (SF59)

MontyTheMongoose · **Posted:** Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:27 am

All Flaming Lips (except Steve Drozd and Ronald Jones)

Billzebub · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:26 pm **Posts:** 6459

Ex Lion Tamer Wrote:

Bruce Foxton (Jam Bass player)

Amen. I'm fortunate enough to have seen him live a few times with Stiff Little Fingers. He's a great, if not technically a virtuoso, bass player.

My vote:

Keith Moon

The Mayor of Simpleton · **Posted:** Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:41 pm

fuse Wrote:

And you know, Miles . . . had pretty limited tools, but
changed music as we know it.

Don't mistake playing minimally for not being a virtuoso. Miles chose to play how he played. It was not due to a lack of skill or ability. He changed music as we know it because of that, not in spite of it.

PopTodd · **Posted:** Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:42 pm

The Mayor of Simpleton Wrote:

fuse Wrote:

And you know, Miles . . . had pretty limited tools, but
changed music as we know it.

Don't mistake playing minimally for not being a virtuoso. Miles chose to play how he played. It was not due to a lack of skill or ability. He changed music as we know it because of that, not in spite of it.

True that.
He was a student at Julliard for a while, after all.

Billzebub · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:26 pm **Posts:** 6459

The Mayor of Simpleton Wrote:

fuse Wrote:

And you know, Miles . . . had pretty limited tools, but
changed music as we know it.

Don't mistake playing minimally for not being a virtuoso. Miles chose to play how he played. It was not due to a lack of skill or ability. He changed music as we know it because of that, not in spite of it.

Nope, Miles was a par-at-best trumpet player. Ditto Wynton Marsalis.

The horn player who gets constantly and undeservedly slagged is Maynard Ferguson.

Ex Lion Tamer · **Posted:** Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:04 pm

Billzebub Wrote:

Ex Lion Tamer Wrote:

Bruce Foxton (Jam Bass player)

Amen. I'm fortunate enough to have seen him live a few times with Stiff Little Fingers. He's a great, if not technically a virtuoso, bass player.

I look at that picture of The Jam on the back of This is the Modern World; you know the one with Foxton playing that gorgeous Rickenbacker in mid leap and I think..."man I wish I'd seen these guys live during their prime"

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