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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:44 pm 
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http://billboard.com/bbcom/news/article ... 1001956802

In the clearest sign yet that Billy Corgan is moving ahead with his plan to revive seminal alternative rock act Smashing Pumpkins, sources say the group has signed a new management deal with Jared Paul and Paul Geary at the Irving Azoff-helmed Front Line Management.

Billboard.com has learned that Corgan and Pumpkins drummer Jimmy Chamberlin will initially begin work on a new studio album, the first under the group name since the original Pumpkins' 2000 swan song, "MACHINA/the machines of god." When asked for comment, a Corgan spokesperson said there was no information to report at present.

It is understood that at this point, original members James Iha (guitar) and D'arcy Wretzky (bass) are not participating in the reunion, but sources say multi-instrumentalist Billy Mohler will be involved in some fashion. Mohler formerly played bass in pop/rock act the Calling and was a featured contributor on Chamberlin's 2005 solo album, "Life Begins Again."

The Pumpkins are expected to hit the road at some point this year, although, as first reported here, a rumored appearance at the Coachella Valley Music & Arts Festival in late April will not materialize. The group's name is already being kicked around as a possible headliner for Lollapalooza, which is set for Aug. 4-6 in its Chicago hometown.

"As long as Billy has Jimmy, he can make the essential Pumpkins record, I'm sure," former Pumpkins bassist Melissa Auf Der Maur tells Billboard.com, adding that while she is not involved in any reunion plans, "my services are always there to play my favorite songs. If D'arcy is not available, I'm always happy to be second in line."

As previously reported, Corgan stunned fans last June when he took out a full-page ad in the Chicago Tribune and Sun-Times announcing his intentions to "renew and "revive" the Pumpkins. In 2004, he broke his silence about why the band dissolved, lashing out at Iha and Wretzky for walking away from an endeavor he described as "essentially my entire life... a dream I still believe in."

Corgan's newspaper ads came out the same day as his Reprise solo debut, "The Future Embrace," which met with a chilly reception at retail. The album debuted at No. 31 on The Billboard 200 and has sold just 69,000 copies in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan.

In the past few weeks, the URL SmashingPumpkins.com has begun redirecting to Corgan's own home page. In December, he teased fans on his Myspace.com site with the promise of a surprise, saying that it "all will be announced soon enough. Hold on to your horses. After all, good things surely [come] to those who wait. Don't you just love the suspense?"



i have mixed feelings about this.


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Yeah... been burned too many times. Like pretty much everytime since halfway through Melon Collie.

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right on. its not like d'arcy or james iha ever did anything other than stand around anyway. btw, did anyone ever listen to james ihas solo album? that has to be the most pussied out thing ever put to cd.


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They're reforming?
I didn't know they were delinquents!

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I thought they did this like months ago

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I'll take another Adore or Machina please. Flood doesn't seem to be doing anything at the moment anyway.


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right on. its not like d'arcy or james iha ever did anything other than stand around anyway. btw, did anyone ever listen to james ihas solo album? that has to be the most pussied out thing ever put to cd.


sure.....however i considered it along the same lines as elliot smith...so i take it that you think the same of him???

i thought the record was decent mellow pop album.

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meh. I'm over Smashing Pumpkins.


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It's easy to say "James and Darcy weren't very integral to the sound." but that doesn't explain why Zwan and TheFutureEmbrace sucked worse than the Pumpkins at their lowest (Machina 1).


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It's easy to say "James and Darcy weren't very integral to the sound." but that doesn't explain why Zwan and TheFutureEmbrace sucked worse than the Pumpkins at their lowest (Machina 1).


EXCELLENT POINT

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meh. I'm over Smashing Pumpkins.


The best thing Billy Corgan did was to break up the band. The next best thing he ever did were his Cubs reports on WXRT.

The only song I like was "Bullet with Buttervfly Wings" or whatever it was.


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I guess the Smashing Pumpkins are like the Who for the '00s, except that even their early stuff blew massive chunks.


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I still am in love with Gish and Siamese Dream... and I look forward to them playing Lolla.


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meh. I'm over Smashing Pumpkins.

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I smell disaster. Some folks just need to let go.


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Without Iha and D'Arcy, they're gonna have to pull a Missouri here.

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...but sources say multi-instrumentalist Billy Mohler will be involved in some fashion. Mohler formerly played bass in pop/rock act the Calling and was a featured contributor on Chamberlin's 2005 solo album, "Life Begins Again."


Guess Jonathan Melvoin was busy or something...

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I still am in love with Gish and Siamese Dream... and I look forward to them playing Lolla.


Definately two of my top 20 albums ever, but he keeps telling me in no uncertain terms that he doesn't have any more where that came from, one crapball album after another. I don't want repeats, but I do want quality.

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Don't get me wrong. I love everything the Pumpkins did. Adore is my favorite album by them and I even think Machina 2 was really good.

I'm just totally against these reunion things where they use the name but it's not really the same band. The fact that Iha and Darcy were there at the very beginning makes me feel like they're 50% even if they technically weren't, music-wise.

Even Iha and Auf Der Maur I'd settle for. But without James, it's not the Pumpkins.


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I have very mixed feelings about this. No matter what Billy does I'll still have love for the pumpkins but I don't think that they are exactly relavent any more. That being said it might turn out to be a good cd. :shrug:

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