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I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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if only we could ban annoying perfume scents at work...


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it's a shame that people just aren't professional anymore.

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yeah
keep stripping away peoples identity

that way the people that take
their jobs seriously
don't have to feel
like tools for it

not saying that tatoos and piercings
give a person their identity

but
i do think dressing up
is a total sham
to keep you thinking
that you're doing something important

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dnorwood Wrote:
if only we could ban annoying perfume scents at work...

SECONDED.

As for this ban, I can't say I'd miss seeing facial piercings on anyone. They are, generally, pretty gross, with the exception, and only exception, being very small nose rings. I'm sick to death of seeing people with hoops in their friggin' lips, that just grosses me out to no end.

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yeah
but
i do think dressing up
is a total sham
to keep you thinking
that you're doing something important


It is

and

IT DOES

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harry Wrote:
I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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I like to think that my office dress is actually quite a bit better than the typical grad student. Today I'm wearing gray wool slacks & a blue linen shirt, while all my office mates are in shorts and t-shirts. I'm no fashionista, and no snazzy dresser like GAR, but I like to express my confidence in my research with my apparel. Now, if I'm spending the day in the lab, or any time in the field, I dress appropriately, but I like having different standards for "work", "fieldwork", and "social" clothes.

Edit: And I have no tattoos or piercings that are visible when I'm fully dressed & have my mouth shut.

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it's about projecting the notion that the organization is not a bunch of lazy smelly hippies or angst ridden punks to the customer. Express yourself on your own time.

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I tried to find somebody of that sort that I could like that nobody else did - because everybody would adopt his group, and his group would be _it_; someone weird like Captain Beefheart. It's no different now - people trying to outdo ! each other in extremes. There are people who like X, and there are people who say X are wimps; they like Black Flag.


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I work with a bunch of old farts, so this never comes up.

Do people actually wear extensive piercings and such in an office environment?

Outrageous.

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dnorwood Wrote:
if only we could ban annoying perfume scents at work...


agreed. the quality AND quantity.

i actually had to change the earpiece on my phone because some dude with too much cologne used it and every time i got near it i wanted to gag.


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oldbullee Wrote:
it's about projecting the notion that the organization is not a bunch of lazy smelly hippies or angst ridden punks to the customer. Express yourself on your own time.


Well, I mean, day in, day out at my office, I'm usually in jeans and a starched shirt.

Today, its jeans, a colored t shirt and a blue button up.

If I leave my office for business purposes, its DAT SUIT.

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harry Wrote:
I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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I tend to agree with Oldbullee. Your work dress should generally be better than your casual day wear, and most people should realize that looking professional and competent also means looking well kept and sans piercings and tats.
I don't dress unbelievably nice for work, but still look much more presentable than everyone else I work with.


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when i started my new job, i was worried about showing the tattoo on my wrist. i realized i had nothing to worry about when i met a coworker who is both heavily tattooed and a member of a psychobilly band.


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oldbullee Wrote:
it's about projecting the notion that the organization is not a bunch of lazy smelly hippies or angst ridden punks to the customer. Express yourself on your own time.


well i guess i qualify as a little bit of both of these
but im not lazy or pissed
i would say logical and opinionated

i want to wear
the same jeans everyday
until they are dirty
not out of laziness
but out of practicalness
and its good for the planet too

it really has nothing to do
with my output

when my clothes get in the way of my output
then you can fire me

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I work with a guy who cannot be seen during public events due to his piercings and dreads. We used to have two of them. Since he is a maintenance staff person, he can look a little more crappy than most, but his appearance wouldn't cut it anywhere else.

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catswilleatyou Wrote:

when my clothes get in the way of my output
then you can fire me


if you worked for me, it would be the first day you showed up in dirty smelly jeans.

im pretty liberal about what i let my people wear but im not allowing any visible body piercings or bullshit t-shirts.

im running a business here. you want to make the dress code, go fucking start your own.

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catswilleatyou Wrote:
oldbullee Wrote:
it's about projecting the notion that the organization is not a bunch of lazy smelly hippies or angst ridden punks to the customer. Express yourself on your own time.


well i guess i qualify as a little bit of both of these
but im not lazy or pissed
i would say logical and opinionated

i want to wear
the same jeans everyday
until they are dirty
not out of laziness
but out of practicalness
and its good for the planet too

it really has nothing to do
with my output

when my clothes get in the way of my output
then you can fire me


I'd fire you for writing in lyrical stanza form.
Puntuation and capitalization and paragraphs are not your enemies.

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oldbullee Wrote:
it's about projecting the notion that the organization is not a bunch of lazy smelly hippies or angst ridden punks to the customer. Express yourself on your own time.


Well, I mean, day in, day out at my office, I'm usually in jeans and a starched shirt.

Today, its jeans, a colored t shirt and a blue button up.

If I leave my office for business purposes, its DAT SUIT.


Every organization is gonna have it's own notion of what is acceptable. I think it's just sad that we have to make rules for what should be common sense. Obviously this is job specific as I don't expect my garbage man to pick up trash in 3 piece Armani.

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i agree with yail about the
his business his rules thing

and i probably wouldn't want
to get a heart operation
from some punkass doogie howser

but i'm the kind of guy
that wouldn't want to work for someone
that had that much control of my life
because it would negatively affect my self-respect

but i do graphics
so most of the time
it shouldn't be a big deal

at work i send emails
in lyrical stanza form
...
its helped me a lot

people skim
words better
this way

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Fuck you all, I look good (better, anyway) dressed up. I know, it's not very rock'n'roll, but I'm one of those asshole middle-aged ponytail guys anyway, so what do I care about 'fashion sense'? At least I'm not one of those loud obnoxious "ugly merkin" types.

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Do we really want to degenerate the work place any more than we already have?

I don't think we've done enough. I say we shouldn't allow weaves, freakishly long fingernails, grills, and soul patches. Below the neck tatoos really are the least of my worries.

If the masses had their way we'd all be naked and grunting. Fighting with bones over who's whose woman while doing it on the printer. Everyone would be on drugs and babies would be shooting out like pez dispensers. Hooray for what rules we have left.


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oldbullee Wrote:
I don't expect my garbage man to pick up trash in 3 piece Armani.


That'd rock, though.


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Dusty Chalk Wrote:
Fuck you all, I look good (better, anyway) dressed up. I know, it's not very rock'n'roll, but I'm one of those asshole middle-aged ponytail guys anyway, so what do I care about 'fashion sense'? At least I'm not one of those loud obnoxious "ugly merkin" types.


My boss tells me semi-regularly to get a haircut, but is never serious. I have shaggy hair that is somewhat Beatles Moptop, and somewhat 70's Bee Gees style with mutton chops. Since I usually dress as nice as he does, he can't complain. Plus, our box office manager has hair similar to mine and our booking agent sported Hair band hair for quite sometime when he first started there according to old pictures.

I've got no problems with the middle aged ponytail guys, especially those that seem to dominate the radio industry.


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Hmmm... I'm torn by this. I feel that workplace dress/appearance is also a generational thing. I do believe that people should be presentable and dress as such in a professional setting, but then again, tattoos and piercings don't bother me at all. I'm more worried about things like hygiene and being well-groomed. I would feel much worse about an employee with an overgrown beard and greasy looking hair (an I always notice fingernails...) than a cleaned-up person with multiple piercings or tattoos. Also, I am a bit biased since that old pesky rule that sometimes shows up for girls (one pair of small hoops or small stud earrings) won't work for me.

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