Ok, as most of you probably know from late last week. I got the pleasure of taking my younger sister to go see Fall Out Boy. So let me tell you about it.

First off, there were a ton of younger kids with their parents which was funny because there were some rough acts opening up (screaming, metal riffs, etc). The look of disgust of their faces was priceless. Most of the adults look like they just got out of work still wearing their kakis and business shirts. I left bad for them.

In a generic bumble gum pop kind of way, The All American Rejects were actually not that bad.

Now for Fall Out Boy - sounded very sloppy. The best part though was their idiot bass player making dumbass comments in between the songs. The first comment was to the effect - like our music because of the music not b/c of our looks. WTF - good looks? You have got to be kidding + get your singer on a diet - the dude has been hitting the deli tray a little too much. Apparaently Fall Out Boy has a beef with Panic At The Disco now, he went on to say how 8 year old kids listen to them. Funny because those same kids listen to your music. The biggest blunder of the night was him going on about how they are in it for the music and "keeping it real" - SURE. As pyro is going off during the songs + your 20 dollar t shirts. You guys are keeping it REAL FOR SURE.

So this brings me to my point of this thread. I am SO TIRED of bands of being so damn hypocritical.

I don't mind bands charging high ticket prices or charging alot for t-shirts. Just don't talk about "being real" or being "for the fans" and basically raping us.

Couple of bands that come to mind.

Rage Against the Machine being against big corporations then signing to one. (and dont give me the crap excuse we want to get to the masses).

U2 - being for the "common person" and charging outrageuos ticket prices that a common person cannot afford. not to mention t shirt prices. or flying home after every show on tour (bono is for the environment and conserving right?)

Anti-Flag : the newest blunder - being against corporations, government. super liberal punk band - now signed to a major.

Pearl Jam - Fighting ticketmaster to make tickets "affordable" to people but yet they charge like 50-60/ticket themselves even at present day.



Again i am all for bands making money and charging whatever they want - but dont spout out shit then.

I agree with this. Most of it is just an act. I get upset at things like this like I get upset with baby boomers who marched for civil rights/stopping war in Vietnam, and then think war in Iraq is great, and gay kissing on screen is icky. Makes no sense.

Yeah, seeing two bristly chins sandpapering against each other...

now lesbian kissing, that's bankable propaganda to get the conservatives on the side of civil liberties.

I think PJ's whole thing was they had no control over the price of tickets. I know they tried at least one tour without ticketmaster but that became too difficult finding venues to play in that didn't use ticketmaster.

ok what about present day....

they are playing in grand rapids, michigan and tix are 60 bucks a pop

correct me if i am wrong, but they arent a major anymore, right? they set the rules now, right?

Some snippets from Fall Out Boy fans on Amazon.com::

• This album is really good, with lyrics about rapping things around a girls throat.
• I believe that this one of Fall Out Boy's best cds. I love the songs and the guitar riffs. It's highly recamendable.
• i can not believe how much i love this cd i pretty much know every lyric and not from sittin there reading the lyric book but cuz ive listened to it 15 times this week and it isnt new to me thats just an average of how many times i listen to it a week (i have alot of free time ahahah) anyway they are awesome
• Thus is an awesome CD!!! Holla to my biznitch Katie lol much luv!!!
• If you like underground music, you'll LOVE this cd.
• I listen to all differnt kinds of rock, and I'm not one bit ashamed to admit that my favorite bands include anyone from Nickelback to Trust company to A thorn for every heart to The beetles (pretty strange mix up, huh).
• Most people hate Fall out boy just because they don't want to be "emo". Don't be like them this is a great album, and if you read the lyrics they're hardly emo. They're might be some angsty (if thats a word) parts to them, but for the most part the lyrics Pete writes are witty. Alot of people also complain that it is too unoriginal. It may not be the most original band but they definately have they're own style that no other band really has. In fact I'd like to see those people make music that in no way is affected by other bands.
• The only complaint I have for this band is they're freaken screamer, i hate his scream. For the next album they need a new screamer or no screaming at all.
• i some up every review i write making them all short this is ok.
• I especially love the way that they sing the lyrics though. Hardly any of them rhyme, but they're put together in a great way. The music behind the lyrics is as well very sound. More creative than a lot of songs that I've heard recently. They throw in guitar riffs, bass riffs, and drum riffs more often than normal, but keep it from sounding busy, overall contributing to a sound that it pleasing.
• They're the best live band I've ever seen and I've been to over 50 concerts ranging from Incubus to 311
• I Love Fall Out Boy!!! This albumn rocks!!! I got to meet Fall Out Boy last night... In St. Pete.!!! Me and my friend gots pictures and kisses from Pete!!!
• I would deifintly rank them up there with bands like yellow card and new found glory, but I think i'm gonna put them a step higher if they aren't cocky on stage like yellow card.
• Well, First off, if you don't own this album, U SUCK!!! This band is awsum! the lyrics are catchy and they have so many talents.
• It is very difficult to describe things sometimes.... This is one of those times.
• The band says this Cd was ment to be non-stop excelent tracks. Mission accomplished!
• The lyrics display our innermost bitterness at loss and rejection.
• Fall Out Boy is by far the best band ever period.

And the kicker:

In my whole life of 15 precious years i have never even come close to a CD that has more meaning than take this to your grave. FOB is the best punk/pop band to ever be created. The lead singer voice has the most unique voice and he can really sing unlike most of the annoying singers of this new punk sensation.The words are so meaningful really well written. Its a really good cd to have fun to because the music is so emotional that it overcomes you. The words are so hard once you learn them its so great. Some of their songs kinda remind me of gospel but they dont sing about god.They must put so much time into their lyrics aswell cause there not singing about jerking eachother off, there singing about the tough times, leaving there home and what not.

That's a case of a band that needs artistic control taken away.

I dunno. I thought they always contended that ticketmaster was driving up the prices not the label. I know eventually they came out and made a public statement like we hate doing this but we're tired of fighting it. I agree with you though about hypocritical bands though. I think PJ might actually be one of the sincere ones though.

If i remember correctly, RATM took a very Fugazi like approach to their shows. I remember ticket prices being really cheap for the venues they were playing. Also, the long sleeve I bough that night was only 10 bux.....Sounds fan friendly to me..

As for signing to a major, even revolutionaries wanna get paid....Get the big guys to make expensive vids...RATM didnt do us wrong.

I wish they were sincere enough to hire a producer who isn't afraid to edit them.

yeah but it went against everything that stood for/beleived......thats fine that they kept prices low but......

My personal favorites. But Fall Out Boy is right, 8 year olds listen to Panic At The Disco because they're still 4 years away from the maturity level of Fall Out Boy fans.

also, my point was i am tired of hypocritical bands - whether it be prices, political stance, or whatever. with RATM i wasn't talking about ticket prices/shirts. i was talking about everything they stood for.

I remember an article on PJ where they said the same thing about RATM.

Everyone on earth is hypocritical to a point. Or at some point will be for whatever reason.

Any band who signs a record deal wants to sell records.

As a fan though, yeah, your entirely right. They criticize big business when they happily signed to one of the biggest.....but from a fan standpoint, they did me alright....(no pun intended)

Yeah. Total fucking douches. It would probably amaze most people the amount of hate I have for this band. When I saw em with Wu in ATL they came out with a fucking SOVIET flag behind them, and I HATE COMMIES. BLECH.

Good first album, tho

thats fine and i agree. but you dont have to be so blatant about it - and that is my main beef (ie RATM)

I am sorry for some of my misspellings this morning

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also, my point was i am tired of hypocritical bands - whether it be prices, political stance, or whatever. with RATM i was talking about ticket prices/shirts. i was talking about everything they stood for.

should have been
also, my point was i am tired of hypocritical bands - whether it be prices, political stance, or whatever. with RATM i WASN'T talking about ticket prices/shirts. i was talking about everything they stood for.


Going to see Fall Out Boy caused me to consume massive amounts of beer last night. I am super hungover and at work. Double negative.

We are on a board of music snobs, musical intellectuals, etc.... of course we are going to see through alot of the BS. I worked and still have major connections with the biz....

of course, alot of what these bands say are transparent....its all gimmicks to sell product...thats the bottom line...

but most of America is fed by the MTV's and Pop radio stations of the world, and dont realize how hypcritical these bands are...

whatever i say!


hell, 8 years ago, i was talking three's comapny with marilyn manson after one of his shows......dried blood still on his chest....

its all about selling an ideal, image, and product...

i think i got you beat.
when is aw them they came out NAKED withouth the courtisy to put socks on their cocks. And then stood with tape over their mouths for 15 minutes over an awful wall of feedback and then walked off stage.

aparetnly they gave a free show a few weeks later as apology, which made it even worse.

if you would like to see a pic of the Rage show i'm talking about, click the link.
but it's NSFW or safe at any speed.

http://www.velvetland.org/music/MUSES/R ... alooza.jpg

good lord...i cannot beleive i clicked on that

sorry.
that was the first and last time i saw them live.

i can understand why

Thanks for the sig. First one I've had, I think.