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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:45 pm 
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Inspired by the Walkmen's Louisiana. I don't know if I have ever heard a song with Mariachi horns I didn't like and I don't here enough of it. More Mariachi for me, please?

Let's show some apreesh.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:50 pm 
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Haven't heard it yet, but I think the fact that they didn't mention Cash dreamed the horns on "Ring of Fire" in that god blessed movie made me hate it all the more.
You have this album yet? When it come out?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:52 pm 
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Haven't gotten the album yet but you can listen to Louisiana on their myspace site. Here
http://www.myspace.com/thewalkmen

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I tried to find somebody of that sort that I could like that nobody else did - because everybody would adopt his group, and his group would be _it_; someone weird like Captain Beefheart. It's no different now - people trying to outdo ! each other in extremes. There are people who like X, and there are people who say X are wimps; they like Black Flag.


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Senator NMI LooGAR Wrote:
Haven't heard it yet, but I think the fact that they didn't mention Cash dreamed the horns on "Ring of Fire" in that god blessed movie made me hate it all the more.
You have this album yet? When it come out?


i thought i was the only person that didnt like ring of fire.

but o.b. you are totally right.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:57 pm 
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rparis74 Wrote:
Senator NMI LooGAR Wrote:
Haven't heard it yet, but I think the fact that they didn't mention Cash dreamed the horns on "Ring of Fire" in that god blessed movie made me hate it all the more.
You have this album yet? When it come out?


i thought i was the only person that didnt like ring of fire.

but o.b. you are totally right.

Hard to explain how much I hated it.

It wasn't bad, it was mediocre, which, given the subject matter, is inexcusable.

Bland and Blech.

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harry Wrote:
I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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I thought it was average. Will never see it again.

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I imagine Mariachi horns in classical music would seem less than inspiring.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:24 pm 
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Senator NMI LooGAR Wrote:
rparis74 Wrote:
Senator NMI LooGAR Wrote:
Haven't heard it yet, but I think the fact that they didn't mention Cash dreamed the horns on "Ring of Fire" in that god blessed movie made me hate it all the more.
You have this album yet? When it come out?


i thought i was the only person that didnt like ring of fire.

but o.b. you are totally right.

Hard to explain how much I hated it.

It wasn't bad, it was mediocre, which, given the subject matter, is inexcusable.

Bland and Blech.


exactly my feelings. very, very bland. watching old films of johnny cash is really exciting but watching the movie was like watching a tv movie or something. no fire.

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rparis74 Wrote:
Senator NMI LooGAR Wrote:
rparis74 Wrote:
Senator NMI LooGAR Wrote:
Haven't heard it yet, but I think the fact that they didn't mention Cash dreamed the horns on "Ring of Fire" in that god blessed movie made me hate it all the more.
You have this album yet? When it come out?


i thought i was the only person that didnt like ring of fire.

but o.b. you are totally right.

Hard to explain how much I hated it.

It wasn't bad, it was mediocre, which, given the subject matter, is inexcusable.

Bland and Blech.


exactly my feelings. very, very bland. watching old films of johnny cash is really exciting but watching the movie was like watching a tv movie or something. no fire.


Apparently the director did not grasp the difference between Fucked Up and Mentally Retarded. The scene where he goes and sits on the diving board is so fucking slow and languid, and his facial expression is that of a simpleton.

This movie makes me mad, cos Cash is one of my heroes.
And for the record, Joaquin sounded nohing like him, either.

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harry Wrote:
I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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No, you can't go wrong. It's what keeps Cake from being just another meh band.

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No, you can't go wrong. It's what keeps OMC's "How bizarre" from being just another pop song.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:35 pm 
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Im assuming you mean "Walk The Line"?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:36 pm 
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I don't see nothing wrong
With a little mariachi horn


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I'm not entirely sure, and I offer up the alternate "with mariachi horns" version of George Harrison's "What Is Life?" from the 30th Anniversary edition of All Things Must Pass as evidence. They take the arrangement from delightfully overblown to "enough already!"

My guess is it was a misunderstanding between Harrison and Phil Spector in the studio--Harrison said he wanted to add a little Maharishi to the song.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:37 am 
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The Mariachi horns at the end of Tinderstick's Rented Rooms own.

The Walkmen's Mariachi horns sound bland and uninspired to me.

You're gonna need more than three notes to impress me, silly walkmen.

I do however admire them for crafting sometimes decent songs with the little or no talent that they have. And i don't mean that in a bad way. I feel similar towards Doves, except they do it even better (that is, stealing entire riffs from older bands, and when they do use their own riffs they are very very simple, but they pull it off, key of c songwriting all the while).


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"Alone Again Or."

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I'll throw in a vote for the Dead's "Mexicali Blues"

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Little know fact: Cash had eaten Mexican the night before he decided to add the horns to the song, so he really knew what "Ring of Fire" meant. Gives the song a beautiful dichotomy. A salute to love and THEM. I'm guessing Hamilton had a mess of boiled crawfish before adding them to "Louisiana". Same reasoning.

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rparis74 Wrote:
Senator NMI LooGAR Wrote:
Haven't heard it yet, but I think the fact that they didn't mention Cash dreamed the horns on "Ring of Fire" in that god blessed movie made me hate it all the more.
You have this album yet? When it come out?


i thought i was the only person that didnt like ring of fire.

but o.b. you are totally right.


Nope, I'm with you, and I don't like it because of the horns. This song is perfect when it's dark and guitar driven, cue Wall Of Voodoo.


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I prefer those stately british-sounding horns. Know what I mean? The ones you hear in Billy Bragg songs?

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there's a calexico song or two out there that support this claim.

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The horns in Beck's Burro are just tolerable.


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The horns in Beck's Burro are just tolerable.


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