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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:48 pm 
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Looks like its getting harder to be a monger in TX


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"Being in a bar does not exempt one from the state laws against public drunkenness, Beck said."


You know, I never would have thought of this..


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ARE YOU FRIKEN KIDDING ME?!

"let's just arrest people for being a drunk. AT A BAR."

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fucking stupid.

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I smell lawsuit. This shit would never fly here in Nebraska, since the conservatives around here are closer to being the Montana Militia than the Christian right. I feel that a bar has a legal responsibility to cut a person off when they are obviously intoxicated and a threat to themselves. Other than that the patron should be able to drink as much as they want, and the law should assume this person will not get behind the wheel. Basically they are stating a bar is no longer responsible enough to keep track of their patrons and when it is time to cut them off.


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lawsuit would be a losing proposition. what ppl should do is vote these fuckers out of office.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:11 pm 
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Ridiculous. How can the law folks tell who is going to cause trouble before they do it?? If someone goes to a bar, is with other people, isn't driving, isn't carrying weapons, and doesn't get in fights or cause other mischief, than what is so bad about them having some drinks? The article said they arrested 30 people on the first sting... I wonder what is was about those people that caused them to be singled out in bars full of other drunks.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:13 pm 
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Next they'll ban being drunk on the internets.


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speaking of that - i wish i had some damn beer. can I drink wine alone?

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"Being in a bar does not exempt one from the state laws against public drunkenness, Beck said."

The goal, she said, was to detain drunks before they leave a bar and go do something dangerous like drive a car.

i get this. it's not like people automatically sober up as soon as they set foot outside of a bar. i think it's silly to arrest someone for being drunk in a bar, but i don't drink and i don't live in texas. this doesn't matter to me.


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i have two dds with me tonight. I'ma wear a suit, get trashed, tabc be fucking damned. i'm drinking, i ain't driving, and i'll be a sharp-dressed man, damn it to fuck.

gonna see knife in the water play, too.

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I can see detaining an obviously intoxicated person for their own health, but do you really need to cite them with public drunkeness.
I know that the Lincoln Police Department will take people to Detox aka the drunk tank and detain them until they are sober or have someone pick them up, without actually charging them with anything.

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lawsuit would be a losing proposition. what ppl should do is vote these fuckers out of office.


well, they're basically a law enforcement agency, so there's no one to vote out...but this is getting a lot of play down here and I would be surprised if this carries on...it's just gonna stir up too much shit, even if they are working within the law

the restaurant lobby isn't gonna take this lying down either


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2200 arrests in 6 months- this is definitely a different wrinkle going on down yonder in Texas. Olbermann did a segment on it just now- showed a mid-to-late 50's woman being arrested in the bar of the hotel she was staying in. And the bartender that served her. Got to call bullshit on this campaign.


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i guess i'm not moving to texas.

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Lame. I mean sure, get 'em a cab. But if you're not being disorderly and not behind the wheel, I don't see the justification for an arrest. Ah well, I'm not passionate about getting inebriated anyways, so I guess I don't have much to worry about.


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2200 arrests in 6 months- this is definitely a different wrinkle going on down yonder in Texas. Olbermann did a segment on it just now- showed a mid-to-late 50's woman being arrested in the bar of the hotel she was staying in. And the bartender that served her. Got to call bullshit on this campaign.


I'm glad that they are busting the bartenders too, but isn't drinking at a hotel bar like drinking in your living room. It's basically your house or place of living for that time period, if you are legally able to get drunk in your house and hotel room, you should legally be able to drink at a hotel bar.
I also don't understand how private property advocates aren't seething over this. You can't tell me they are going to Country Club bars and bars located insided organizations like the VFW and American Legion. Hotels are private property and restrict the access the public has to much of its property, thus these people aren't really drunk in public.
The argument can be used on bars, since the main beef with smoking bans are that they deal with a private property owners right to allow smoking in their building. It just seems like the probable cause and basis for these arrest is pretty flimsy and that there are many possible legal challenges to the validity of this program.
To me it's as if they know they are missing a piece of the pie, and are now plundering bars the only way they know how. It just really seems like a legal scam.


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Wonder if they'd arrest the Bush twins if they had the opportunity.

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Chuck(e)D Wrote:
i have two dds with me tonight. I'ma wear a suit, get trashed, tabc be fucking damned. i'm drinking, i ain't driving, and i'll be a sharp-dressed man, damn it to fuck.

gonna see knife in the water play, too.


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i have two dds with me tonight. I'ma wear a suit, get trashed, tabc be fucking damned. i'm drinking, i ain't driving, and i'll be a sharp-dressed man, damn it to fuck.

gonna see knife in the water play, too.


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It's about fucking time. You couldn't avoid that shit forever.

On another note, I'm taking Earthquake Hangover for a band name.

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I got a public drunkeness citation in my front yard in college.


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Front yard?? That's impressive. I'm amazed I have never been cited for this. Not even after that time I was actually in the cop car with 3 other people. And we were more than drunk. I'm waiting for the day I get a DUI......









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Promethium Wrote:
I can see detaining an obviously intoxicated person for their own health, but do you really need to cite them with public drunkeness.
I know that the Lincoln Police Department will take people to Detox aka the drunk tank and detain them until they are sober or have someone pick them up, without actually charging them with anything.


Well, Z doesn't drink nor live in Texas, so it doesn't matter to him. Similarly, you don't live in Texas, so bugger off, Promethiatus.


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