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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:27 pm 
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Sorry if there is another thread on this i wasn't seeing, but i was just curious i'm sure everyone knows now about this, but how bad do you think this will get. I know it will have to get worse before better and i don't think a resignation and hate filled letter threatning a stripper is the end.

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i dunno, it can't really get much worse than that email. There's so much attention on the issue that I feel like it's gonna end in giant expulsion and/or firings.

for Duke to cancel their entire lacrosse season is a huge deal. They're that perennially a strong team.

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It's over with the season cancellation and the coach quitting. Those involved will probably be tossed out and the team will suck for a while like Baylor in Basketball.
That is my two cents.
It won't be nearly as big as the CU Rape scandal, but college football is more important than Lacrosse.

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Yea i would agree, also it would probably have died sooner with the absence of the email because i think the coach news would have been a big deal but not gotten the naacp involved.

i read that the victim had been previously raped at her college.

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Once again, I'm sickened by how ignorant these spoiled rich white boys are. It's disgusting what they did, and hopefully they're held accountable. Not only the 3 who committed the rape but everyone who kept it a secret.


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What made me cringe was not only how it was being handled with the parties involved but the detail of the crime and how they seemed to take it so lightly. What sick person sodomizes a woman with a broom?

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It's unfortunate that the 95% of the country that doesn't play lax is going to judge a pretty damn cool sport based on the actions of a few assholes at Duke.

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as a guy who's been raised in and around the sport and played it for about 10 years I can say I've met enough laxholes that the sport's reputation has never been too shiny.

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I always think of Johns Hopkins, Maryland, Virgina and Syracuse when it comes to the sport, they are always playing in the Final Four on ESPN2

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I always think of Johns Hopkins, Maryland, Virgina and Syracuse when it comes to the sport, they are always playing in the Final Four on ESPN2


well, UNC, Duke, Towson, Princeton... there's a bunch of usual contenders, though Princeton and 'Cuse are kinda new to the final four (meaning in the last decade or so).


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It's unfortunate that the 95% of the country that doesn't play lax is going to judge a pretty damn cool sport based on the actions of a few assholes at Duke.


i doubt people read this as a lacrosse thing. it's really another example of privileged college athlete assholes.


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Syracuse actually has more NCAA Lacrosse title than anyone. They've been one of the powerhouses for the last 30 years or so. Hopkins has a million national championships from the pre-NCAA era. So, overall they're probably the biggest name in the sport.
But the 'Cuse is definitely not new to the Final Four. In fact, it was the team of perhaps the greatest lacrosse player ever, Jim Brown (who is also arguably the best football player ever).

Anyway, I hope all those bastards at Duke go to jail. However, they are lacrosse players, so I'm sure their White Ruling Class parents will get them out of it somehow.


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I haven't really looked into this to know enough about it. I don't anything about Lacrosse either. Is there any chance these dudes are innocent?

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I'll let it slide this time, but next time, those boys better beat up a white girl. I can handle the sisters on my own.


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Sorry, Fu - the broad-cloth method of painting has already begun.

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It's unfortunate that the 95% of the country that doesn't play lax is going to judge a pretty damn cool sport based on the actions of a few assholes at Duke.

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I'm glad someone else knows their lax history with the above pic.

I played the sport for 12 yrs in and around the Balto./DC metro area as a kid, and I fear that lacrosse will take a hit. Especially since lax is starting to gain a little momentum in the mainstream. Its a great sport for both men and women, and highly competitive in both. I love watching it, and wish that I could play in a club or something out here, but alas it isn't to be. I am however hoping to get up to Philly for the championships, and hit up some Bayhawk games.

Also, when you say privilaged whiteboys, lets not forget that most of those guys were on scholarship, and to judge them on the tuition of the school is a little bit of a sterotype.

*EDIT* Upon reading reports though, this is probably true of these particular guys though.

This incident is pretty horrenous, and I really hope the fuckers get jailtime, and it sullies their lifes. While the email is pretty screwed up, I hate to say it, but if one of us were in on a crime, and the authorities came looking at Obner, they'd take the context as well, so I'm not ready to crucify over that just yet.

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 Post subject: DNA Tests Clear Duke Lacrosse Players In Rape Case
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DNA Tests Clear Duke Lacrosse Players In Rape Case

POSTED: 5:43 pm EDT April 10, 2006
UPDATED: 8:30 pm EDT April 10, 2006

DURHAM, N.C. -- DNA test results released Monday cleared members of the Duke University men's lacrosse team in an alleged rape of an exotic dancer at a party last month.

A North Carolina Central University student told police that she was performing as an exotic dancer at a March 13 party attended by lacrosse team members when she was pulled into a bathroom, beaten and raped by three men.

Forty-six members of the lacrosse team supplied DNA samples to authorities as part of the investigation, and the State Bureau of Investigation lab released the DNA evidence to the Durham County District Attorney's Office Monday afternoon.

Attorneys representing the players held a press conference to announce the results of the tests, saying they exonerated the players.

Attorneys Wade Smith and Joe Cheshire said the tests showed no DNA from any player was found on the woman, her clothes or her belongings. The medical results showed the woman hadn't even had sex, the attorneys said.

"These results showed exactly what we knew all along," Cheshire said. "No rape or sexual assault happened in that house, and this DNA report shows that loud and clear."

The accuser's father told NBC-17 Monday night that he still believes his daughter, and he discounted the claims of defense attorneys that she was intoxicated the night of the party.


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No charges have been filed in the case. District Attorney Mike Nifong declined to comment on the test results, so it's unclear how he plans to proceed with the case.

Smith and defense attorney Robert Ekstrand said they hope Nifong will drop the case, so the players, Duke and Durham can move forward.

"This has been an absolute nightmare for these young men and their families," Ekstrand said.

"We hope that, with the long-awaited test and these results, that Mr. Nifong will announce that he is not going to pursue the case further," he said. "Perhaps, with these results, the community can begin to heal."

The case split the Duke campus and the Durham community in recent weeks.

Several student groups complained that Duke administrators were slow to respond in the case, while others warned against judging the players before the evidence was in.

Some Durham residents noted that Duke students often acted with a sense of entitlement around town, and N.C. Central students rallied in support of the victim, calling the alleged rape a hate crime against a black woman.

"I'm glad that there are no positive matches, and I'm sorry for the lacrosse team, that they had to endure so much," Duke freshman Becky Swerin said after learning of the test results.

"Just because no DNA came up, still there could have been some act committed, or nothing could have happened at all. I really don't know until the charges come back," a Duke senior said.

Duke President Richard Brodhead canceled the season for the nationally ranked lacrosse team last week, saying he was appalled by a lewd e-mail recovered by police during their investigation. Lacrosse coach Mike Pressler also turned in his resignation, and Brodhead announced an extensive review of the university's handling of the episode, including an examination of the lacrosse team's culture.

"None of us are saying there aren't proper social and moral issues that came out of this whole discussion that aren't appropriate for discussion," Cheshire said. "But unfortunately, people have meshed those issues with this sexual assault and tried to make them all the same."

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Way to stereotype and jump to conclusions, guys.

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Just like a bunch of fucking white lacrosse players to beat and rape a girl and then force her to get rid of all the DNA evidence...goddamn science schools.


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Fu Wrote:
It's unfortunate that the 95% of the country that doesn't play lax is going to judge a pretty damn cool sport based on the actions of a few assholes at Duke.


Nah, the LAX players were assholes at my alma mater as well. We didn't have a recognized team in high school, but the ultimate frisbee crowd all played--only problem was since we were all self-funded, no one had defense nor goalie equipment.


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