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http://www.sonyclassics.com/artschoolconfidential/

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I wish I could say this looks good as it's the second collaboration between Daniel Clowes and Terry Zwigoff (the previous one being Ghost World).

Anyway, the story concept is lifted from a strip Clowes did under the same name. It was awesome, but not nearly enough material to make into a movie. As I recall, it was about 4 or 5 pages. Much like Ghost World, it seems they had to invent a "plot", but in this case there was almost nothing to go on, not even any central characters.

I still feel drawn to see this because I've become a pretty big Clowes fan, but I'm not sure I want to put myself through it. I'm not even all that crazy about the Ghost World movie, but it was never one of my favorite books of his. Anybody thinking about checking this out, or have seen it or know anyone who's seen it? The critics don't like at all.

On the one hand, I wish something like Like a Velvet Glove Cast in Iron or David Boring would be made into a movie instead, but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't translate well. At least they have enough substance to pull a movie out of, though.


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I wanna see this.

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I'll see it on DVD.


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Lady KPH demands we see this. We're both pretty big Ghost World (movie) fans. I've read lots of bad things about ASC though, so I'm not expecting anything tremendous.

Really want to see Brick. Keep forgetting to.


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Really, all of you who haven't should see if any bookstores around you have the Twentieth Century Eightball anthology which has the "Art School Confidential" story among others. At least read that one. It really nails a lot about the whole art school experience, and it's funny and short (Clowes says pretty much all that needs to be said in a few pages - why is this a movie?). You could pick it up and read it in the store in a few minutes.


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I really want to see this. Ghost World is possibly my favorite movie of all time.

I own the Twentieth Century Eightball collection and I agree that it's got next to nothing to build a movie plot off of. Especially since select jokes, like the tampon-in-a-teacup gag, were already used in GW. But I still have high hopes.

If ASC can be made into a movie, I'm hoping for an I Hate You Deeply! movie next.


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the previews look funny to me, but the tomatometer says 36%


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Metacritic says 51 (out of 100)


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Yeah, like I said, the critics don't like it.

In a perfect world, we'd be getting Like a Velvet Glove Cast in Iron directed by David Lynch instead of this.


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loved ghostworld but this looks bad. i will watch it at some point because john malkovich is an art professor and i know that's gonna be over the top.


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the critics hate this, which honestly makes me even more excited about it.

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I've heard pannings on this, but one of the more interesting takes was that the first half is hilarious and then it loses steam. Who knows. Its on my list for sure.

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Isn't the retarded brother from My Name is Earl in this?

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Loved Ghost World...this was horrible. The first quarter of the movie is barely amusing and it quickly becomes a train wreck after that.


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we were just about to go see this. maybe we should see something else


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yeah don't bother with this movie. it's mildly amusing, at best.

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I thought it was OK. The beginning is funny, not laugh out loud funny but entertaining. And it's pretty dead on with the stereotypes of the art school people. The actual plot of the movie is pretty stupid, though.

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In a perfect world, we'd be getting Like a Velvet Glove Cast in Iron directed by David Lynch instead of this.


Given how bizarre and tangential the comic is, I can only imagine how completely incomprehensible this would be if David Lynch got a hold of it. I'd let the Coen brothers do it. They would keep it weird but maybe tighten it up a little bit.


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el_scorcho Wrote:
Me Wrote:
In a perfect world, we'd be getting Like a Velvet Glove Cast in Iron directed by David Lynch instead of this.


Given how bizarre and tangential the comic is, I can only imagine how completely incomprehensible this would be if David Lynch got a hold of it.


Yeas, exactly. It would be perfect. The comic already reads like a Lynch film.

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I'd let the Coen brothers do it. They would keep it weird but maybe tighten it up a little bit.


Good God, no. I like the Coens (or I used to - haven't seen their last two), but what you're suggesting would totally ruin it. Do you even like the book? It doesn't need to be "tightened up", and it certainly doesn't need to be dumbed down for Hollywood and mass consumption which is most likely what would happen to it if, for some reason, someone actually got the nutty idea to make it into a movie. I don't really think it would work as a movie, but if it was going to be done, it would absolutely have to have someone along the lines of a Lynch or Cronenburg that could really get inside its dream-like weirdness. I would hate to see that story mangled into something that made any logical, narrative sense.


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we saw Thank you for Smoking instead. I enjoyed it.


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Saw this last night and I actually liked it. Maybe because my expectations were pretty low after hearing only bad things. When he first meets the guy in his class, that's pretty much the whole original ASC strip right there.

And they didn't do a terrible job expanding on it. The characters weren't nearly as good as Ghost World's but I'll still buy it on dvd when it comes out.


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