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Indians just made the top of my list.

Its like dealing with a computer voice, only slightly harder to understand.

Also, living in BFE leaves you with TERRIBLE flight options.

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??? Is this a braves related rant?

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Dave, did you catch the last episode of 30 Days? Was all about outsourcing.

The few that I've spoken to at Dell have been ok.


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Dave, did you catch the last episode of 30 Days? Was all about outsourcing.

The few that I've spoken to at Dell have been ok.


Oddly enough I had to deal with this last week, when i was home. My dad just bought a computer and I was dealing with Dell "customer service" which was just fucking terrible. Let's just say it was a politically incorrect household that morning, more so than usual.

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I don't know from personal experience, but I've heard that if you order through Dell Small Business, you get support & service right out of Texas.

I only had to deal with Dell customer service once with my desktop, and I have no complaints.

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There was an article in GQ where the author outsourced his life--literally. All his dealings from fights with his wife, to congratulatory things for his son were done through India. Very funny, yet sad piece.

We are handing over our country. Outsourcing is the worse thing that we can do. Its not a nationalistic feeling either. Its simply the thought of us gradually losing control of our own destiny in a way.

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There was an article in GQ where the author outsourced his life--literally. All his dealings from fights with his wife, to congratulatory things for his son were done through India. Very funny, yet sad piece.

We are handing over our country. Outsourcing is the worse thing that we can do. Its not a nationalistic feeling either. Its simply the thought of us gradually losing control of our own destiny in a way.



another argument against raising the minimum wage.

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Flying Rabbit Wrote:
There was an article in GQ where the author outsourced his life--literally. All his dealings from fights with his wife, to congratulatory things for his son were done through India. Very funny, yet sad piece.

We are handing over our country. Outsourcing is the worse thing that we can do. Its not a nationalistic feeling either. Its simply the thought of us gradually losing control of our own destiny in a way.



another argument against raising the minimum wage.


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Why outsource? To save on labor, right? I hate to crosspollenate threads, but,honestly, seems obvious: in the US, everything is cheaper product wise, but everyone, maybe thanks to big labor? makes a decent wage for anything short of, well, I can't think of something that people get paid less to do in the USA than in other nations.
So now, what gives, the system's gonna get weak at some link.

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Dalen Wrote:
Dave, did you catch the last episode of 30 Days? Was all about outsourcing.

The few that I've spoken to at Dell have been ok.


Nah, brah, I haven't peeped that show. Homeboy's inronic handlebar mustache is too much for me.

I was trying to book a fucking plane ticket, through Delta Skymiles, and EVERY TIME I ASKED A QUESTION, the lady on the other end was like "When I make that change the cost is now $XXX, which I can book via credit card, and you can blah blah blah..." Obviously reaidng from a script, when the hwole shebang would have worked better with someone I could A) have a convo with, and B) had a passing knowledge of US geography (which I suppose would not necessarily be the case with an American either ;) )

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I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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we just outsourced all of our tech support to Canada. they're very polite.


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We are handing over our country. Outsourcing is the worse thing that we can do. Its not a nationalistic feeling either. Its simply the thought of us gradually losing control of our own destiny in a way.


I'm not trying to pick on you (between here and the MW thread), but could you explain this further?

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Long trem strategy for multi-nationals...in case you don't realize this...is to continue to seek wages in whatever third world hell hole can provide adequate labor until global wages are down so low that even in the US, people will be working for the same shitty salaries big corporations are giving to people in India and other such countries now.

Welcome to the modern corporate state. Isn't the global free market great?

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Flying Rabbit Wrote:
DHRjericho Wrote:
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There was an article in GQ where the author outsourced his life--literally. All his dealings from fights with his wife, to congratulatory things for his son were done through India. Very funny, yet sad piece.

We are handing over our country. Outsourcing is the worse thing that we can do. Its not a nationalistic feeling either. Its simply the thought of us gradually losing control of our own destiny in a way.



another argument against raising the minimum wage.


:roll:



just being honest...not saying it's right or wrong.

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Outsourcing our jobs.

Welcoming illegal immigrants.

This country's fucked.

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We are handing over our country. Outsourcing is the worse thing that we can do. Its not a nationalistic feeling either. Its simply the thought of us gradually losing control of our own destiny in a way.


I'm not trying to pick on you (between here and the MW thread), but could you explain this further?


That's cool. I know you aren't. At least I know we'll have an intelligent debate if you disagree. I wouldn't have opened my mouth if I couldn't have explained.

My point is, these coutries control us as we outsource all our products, our services, etc to them. What if they just stop or, demand more money, etc? What about all that credit info you give out to them? All those addresses, etc. People can use that information for no good.

from wiki--http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outsourcing
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There are also security issues concerning companies giving outside access to sensitive customer information. In April of 2005, a high-profile case involving the theft of $350,000 from four Citibank customers occurred when Indian call center workers in Pune, India, acquired the passwords to customer accounts and transferred the money to their own accounts opened under fictitious names. Citibank did not find out about the problem until the American customers noticed discrepancies with their accounts and notified the bank.[6]

Outright fraud is also a concern. In 2005, Intel discovered and fired 250 Indian employees after they faked their expense reports.[7] The firings followed from Intel's internal Business Practice Excellence program of expenses claims. The report concluded that fraudulent practices such as "faking bills to claim your allowances like conveyance [and] drivers’ salaries" were some common malpractices in India. Intel would not put up with such fraud. NASSCOM, which is a forum of IT and ITeS companies, has attempted to address these fraud concerns in India by creating the National Skills Registry. That database contains personal and work-related information, enabling employers to verify a staff member's credentials and allowing police to track the background of workers.

Opponents often dismiss these reports, saying that fraud and corruption exists everywhere. However, it is disingenuous to therefore insinuate that fraud and corruption is uniform from nation to nation. Corruption is in fact measured for comparison by Transparency International, through their Corruption Perceptions Index.[8] Popular outsourcing destinations such as China (3.2/10) and India (2.9/10) rank low on the index, meaning high levels of corruption.

That being said, security related issues, such as falsifying expense documents, or compromising client financial information, are rare when taken in to account the number of offshore personnel and projects they are associated with.

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The day will come when 911 is outsourced. And the Pakistani/Jakarti dispatchers will have a list of stock English phrases to use in order to please importantly facilitate the saving of the lifes thank you please.


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I need police! There's someone in my house!!!


I want you to go to the wall and make sure the computer is plugged in.

What?!

Ok. Now, I want you to make sure the monitor is plugged in and on.

What the hell are you talking about?!

Good. Is the computer making any noises?

I don't know what you are talking about?! I need the police!

Ok, please let me have the serial number, followed by your credit card, and the 16 digit customer care number that you received in the mail 4-6 weeks after receiving your computer.

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Thank you. My name is John Smith. My badge number is 465239202058372793768349736255970883625485907847 your incident report number is 43. Thank you for calling Gateway.

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We are handing over our country. Outsourcing is the worse thing that we can do. Its not a nationalistic feeling either. Its simply the thought of us gradually losing control of our own destiny in a way.


I'm not trying to pick on you (between here and the MW thread), but could you explain this further?


My point is, these coutries control us as we outsource all our products, our services, etc to them. What if they just stop or, demand more money, etc? What about all that credit info you give out to them? All those addresses, etc. People can use that information for no good.



this is the scariest part. sooner or later they WILL demand more money, and there goes the cheap prices for goods. so not only will all of our jobs be outsourced, we'll potentially be paying more for products and services from other countries.


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