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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:36 pm 
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So I've recently realized that I'm quite into "orchestral" music lately. Some of it is Pop, awhile other artists are kind of hybrid jazz-orchestral-experimental.

It's just a thread I've noticed is running through much of what I'm listening to these days.

Here's my list...

> Arthur Russell (orchestral-jazz-experimental)
> Moondog (experimental-orchestral-jazz)
> Rufus Wainwright (orchestral pop)
> David Axelrod (orchestral jazz w/ classical influences)
> (The Dears) (orchestral pop)

Anyone else want to add some stuff to it that I should know about? RIYLs?


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John Cale - Paris, 1919 (literate British chamber pop and one of my all-time Top 20 albums)
The Left Banke - There's a Storm a Coming ("Walk Away Renee" and others in the same style)
Chamber Strings - A Month Of Sundays (moody Kinks with a string section)

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PopTodd Wrote:
John Cale - Paris, 1919 (literate British chamber pop and one of my all-time Top 20 albums)


Oh... hum... **rubs hands together in "plotting" kind of way** very nice indeeed.

Oh, I should have mentioned that I'd prefer non-overtly Beatles-y stuff (please don't hate me ayah). But then again this thread is for people to share... not just about me getting recommendations so...


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You probably know these, but Delgados and Aereogramme (who toured together, but aren't all that much alike) spring to mind. There are doubtless many more in my collection, but I'm blanking.


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HaqDiesel Wrote:
You probably know these, but Delgados and Aereogramme (who toured together, but aren't all that much alike) spring to mind. There are doubtless many more in my collection, but I'm blanking.


Actually I don't. I recognize the name Delgados but have never heard them. Coolio.


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They're Scots, and defintely have some Beatles influence (see "All You Need is Hate"), but it's not "overtly Beatles-y."


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I love orchestral music.


Love "Forever Changes" is a pretty obvious one

Nick Garrie "The Nightmare of J.B. Stanislas" -baroque pop/folk and really fucking great

Aquarious Records Wrote:
Another day, another rare sixties pop-psych reissue with quite a bit of collector cachet... that is also pretty darn great! First time on cd for this Eddie Vartan-produced 1969 LP, wonderfully dreamy and baroque and folky and orchestrated. Lots of languid, lazy-day la, la, la's here!
Talented, curly-haired singer-songwriter Nick Garrie was youthful, peripatetic, and quite cosmopolitan (you can tell from his lyrics, referencing all corners of Europe). He had a Scottish mother, a Russian father, and was raised in both France and England, calling Paris his home at the time this record came out. Though nowadays it gets compared to the work of Nick Drake, Billy Nichols, Peter Sarstedt, Bill Fay, and others of note, due to music biz circumstances beyond Nick's control, it immediately sank into obscurity upon initial release. But now thanks to Rev-ola it's been reissued, complete with extensive liner notes, track-by-track commentary by Nick himself, and seven bonus tracks including his fantastic and even harder to find than the LP 1968 single "Queen Of Spades" b/w "Close Your Eyes" (the B-side of which you may have already heard on the Nightmares at Toby's Shop compilation we listed last year). Great stuff for fans of UK popsike like Kaleidoscope.



The Lost Generation "Young, Tough and Terrible" - orchestral soul

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Fantastic group soul from Chicago -- and the hardest to find of the two albums by The Lost Generation! The record is a killer batch of spacey soul cuts, with very dope arrangements by Tom Washington, Eugene Record, and Cliff Davis. The title cut's a monster, and a very fitting follow-up to their earlier "Sly, Slick, & Wicked" track -- and the album features 2 versions (vocal and instrumental) of a cut called "This Is The Lost Generation", a very righteous soul groove with a heavy production tip. Other titles include "Sure Is Funky", "Thin Line Between Love & Hate", and "Tired Of Being Alone". CD also features the bonus track "Talking The Teenage Language


Isaac Hayes "Hot Buttered Soul"

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Amazing stuff from Isaac Hayes! Although Ike had first appeared on LP with the album "Introducing", this was the first record to really expose his true soul genius -- and it was also the first release on Ike's successful sub-label at Stax, Enterprise Records. The record shows that for all the years Ike was working away on other folks' songs for Stax, he was carefully cooking up his own style of soul that would forever change the way we think about the music. Back in 1969, the album must have blown more than a few minds for its incredibly baroque approach to soul music -- taking common elements like strings, piano, and funky rhythms, and stretching them out into long waves of sound that cycle over and over, working a sly subtle magic along with Ike's super-sexy vocals, and his monologue-heavy approach to popular tunes. The album features incredible remakes of pop hits "Walk On By" and "By The Time I Get To Phoenix" -- both of which run for over 10 minutes, and which completely transform the songs into something way more than simple radio fodder. Also features the psychedelic soul masterpiece "Hyperbolicsyllabicsesquedalymistic", which has this crazy funky piano, and a messed-up sound that would make even George Clinton weep!


Billy Nicholls "Would You Believe?"

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An incredible album of lost 60s pop -- and the lasting legacy of Billy Nicholls! The record's one of the more baroque affairs to come out of the UK scene in the 60s -- and bears many traces of the California sunniness of similar work by Brian Wilson, Van Dyke Parks, Curt Boettcher, and others. The overall style, though, also has some of the darker traces of the British sound at the time -- slightly psyche, mixed in with the baroque, in a manner that reminds us a bit of Left Banke, or some of the more complicated work of the Kinks. And if you think we're throwing around references here a bit too much, you should hear the record -- which was unfortunately poorly handled at the time of release, and never attained much success -- but which over time has attained a canonical status in 60s pop! Titles include "It Brings Me Down", "Daytime Girl", "Portobello Road", "Life Is Short", "Feeling Easy", "Come Again", and "Would You Believe


Food "Forever is A Dream"

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A beautifully baroque bit of psychedelia from the late 60s -- the only album recorded by the group Food, a sad and somber batch of tunes that really stands out from the pack! The core quintet is augmented on the set by some larger arrangements that mix in strings and horns -- really opening up the sound into territory that's somewhere in the neighborhood of groups like Gandalf and The Left Banke. The set was recorded in Chicago at the mostly-soul Ter Mar Studios, done with a wonderful juxtaposition of styles that we never would have expected -- and which gives the record a depth that's kept it pretty darn fresh over the years! Titles include "Naive Prayers", "No", "Lady Miss Ann", "Leaves", "Marbled Wings", "Inside The Mirror", and "Forever Is A Dream".


Terry Callier "I Just Can't Help Myself"

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One of the best albums that Terry Callier ever recorded -- and a masterpiece of the baroque soul crossover style that was going down at the Chess/Cadet label at the time! Terry's own folksy singing and playing would be more than enough to make this record great -- but it's given an amazing edge by Richard Evans and Charles Stepney, who create these floating pillows of sound and washes of jazzy colors that fit Terry's moods perfectly, and really expand the emotional intensity of the songs. At the time of this release, the Chess empire was falling apart -- but the forces that be put a great last push into the record, and Terry's backed by superb work from Chicago studio giants like Phil Upchurch, Don Myrick, Art Hoyle, Bobby Christian, Cleveland Eaton, Louis Satterfield, and Evans and Stepney themselves! Every track is a wonder, and titles include "Alley-Wind Song" , "Can't Catch the Trane", "Bowlin' Green", and "Until Tomorrow".


And pretty much any early 70's "Blue Brazil" performers especially Marcos Valle. His early 70's albums are so great, especially "Garra"

one last one, Judee Sill "Heart Food"

here's AMG's review

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Thanks Billy, I'll check some of those out.


<--- already Love fan 210% .


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Oh yes...
The Millenium - Begin
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This record can truly be described as a bona fide lost classic. The brainchild of producers Curt Boettcher and Gary Usher, the group was formed out of the remnants of their previous studio project, Sagittarius, which was preceded by yet another aggregation, the Ballroom. On The Millennium Begin, hard rock, breezy ballads, and psychedelia all merge into an absolutely air-tight concept album, easily on the level of other, more widely popular albums from the era such as The Notorious Byrd Brothers, which share not only Usher's production skills, but similarities in concept and construction. The songwriting, mostly by Joey Stec and Curt Boettcher, is sterling and innovative, and yet never strays into the area of psychedelic overindulgence which marred so many records from this era. "It's You," for example, by Stec, is as powerful and fully realized as you'll ever hear from the era, easily on par with songs by the Beach Boys and the Byrds, and, yes, even the Beatles. Begin was at the time the most expensive album Columbia ever produced, and it sounds like it. An absolute necessity for any fan of late-'60s psychedelia and a wonderful rediscovery that sounds as vital today as it did the day it was released. [Disc three of the 2001 Sundazed three-CD release Magic Time: The Millennium/Ballroom Recordings includes everything from the Begin album, as well as the unreleased "Blight"/"Just About the Same" single that was added to the 1990 Begin reissue, and the single versions of "It's You," "I Just Want to Be Your Friend," "5 A.M.," "Prelude," "To Claudia on Thursday," and "There Is Nothing More to Say." The other two CDs have tracks from other acts Boettcher was involved with during the late 1960s (most of them by his prior group, the Ballroom), as well as previously unreleased instrumental versions of three songs from the Begin album: "It Won't Always Be the Same," "There Is Nothing More to Say," and "To Claudia on Thursday."]

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i'm not very good at riyl's so i'll refrain but the tag 'orchestral indie pop' seems fitting


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How about:
The High Llamas?

I have Hawaii with me today, so I'll post something later.
Good stuff.

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