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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:26 am 
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That's right kids, infant porn... :nono:

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CNN) -- Federal officials arrested more than 125 people Wednesday on charges of subscribing to a Web site that depicted children as young as infants engaged in sexual activities with adults.

"Today, we are taking steps against child pornography," U.S. Attorney Christopher J. Christie told reporters in Newark.

Fourteen of the suspects appeared Wednesday afternoon before a magistrate judge in Newark.

The arrests stem from Operation Emissary, which immigration and customs officials launched in New Jersey and extended to more than 21 other states.

It focused on a Web site that offered subscribers access to child porn videos and pictures, Christie and Immigration and Customs Enforcement Special-Agent-in-Charge Kyle Hutchins said in a written statement.

The Web site warned customers that subscribing to the site was illegal and urged them to be discreet, the statement said.( Watch report on virtual porn - 3:15 Video )

Officials said the suspects, who include more than a dozen convicted sex offenders, subscribed to the Web site in late 2005 and early 2006.

More arrests were expected, and Christie warned anyone involved in Internet child porn to be wary.

"You are not anonymous," he said. "We can and we will find you."

Officials would neither identify nor say who operated the Web site.

Christie said such pornography sites typically rake in $2 million per month.

Among the suspects was a former counselor at a Bible camp and a longtime Boy Scout leader and middle-school sports coach, the officials said.

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they should all be shot point blank in the face.


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they should all be shot point blank in the face.


I like the idea of spraying muriatic acid (the shit we use to clean bricks) right in their eyes.

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The Web site warned customers that subscribing to the site was illegal


So, in addition to these people being sick fucks who need shooting, they also fail to approach the first rung of the moron stepladder.


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Of those arrested in the U.S. for the possession of child pornography between 2000 and 2001, 83% had images involving children between ages 6 and 12; 39% had images involving children between ages 3 and 5; and 19% had images of infants and toddlers under age 3 (National Center for Missing & Exploited Children. Child Pornography Possessors Arrested in Internet-Related Crimes: Findings from the National Juvenile Online Victimization Study. Virginia: National Center for Missing & Exploited Children, 2005).


There's not even a percentage for teenagers in there. I guess this infant business ain't a "new" low.


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I like the idea of spraying muriatic acid (the shit we use to clean bricks) right in their eyes.


You clean bricks?

How do these websites get set up and how do people find them? Can't they just track the hosts and the money trail? Is the government setting the sites up to catch people, if so, that seems wrong.


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Not if I can help it, but if its gotta be done--yeah, i'll clean some fucking bricks.

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I don't understand why forced castration is not an option. It's a medical procedure for an otherwise incurable disease.


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I don't understand why forced castration is not an option. It's a medical procedure for an otherwise incurable disease.


Not to mention appropriate punishment for people who are sick fucks.
The shooting can come after the castration.


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I don't understand why forced castration is not an option. It's a medical procedure for an otherwise incurable disease.

castration has no effect on the psychology of the offenders. you can castrate them, but they will still think the same way.

also, a kid i went to high school with was on the run a couple years ago for being in possession of pornographic tapes of his own child (gender unknown). his landlady found them and reported him. it was never said what exactly was on those tapes. i wonder what ever happened with him.


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2 million's good money. i just learned on national geo channel tonite that a couple of bags of mexican crystal meth go for $4k, street stuff $3k.

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I don't understand why forced castration is not an option. It's a medical procedure for an otherwise incurable disease.

castration has no effect on the psychology of the offenders. you can castrate them, but they will still think the same way.


very true. i did a bunch of research for my internship last summer on the recidivism of sex offenders. it's a hell of a lot more complex than balls ---> kiddie porn. as awful as these crimes are, it makes sense to look into how to treat these people, since basically all of them get out of prison eventually.

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Just chain them to the blank wall in Times Square under the big-assed TV with a sign explaining why these people were arrested and let New Yorkers have their way with them.

I'd set up a vendor booth selling rocks and hack saws--it'll turn a million bucks before noon.


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it makes sense to look into how to treat these people, since basically all of them get out of prison eventually.



Not if you kill 'em.


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it makes sense to look into how to treat these people, since basically all of them get out of prison eventually.

Not if you kill 'em.

for some reason, that's not as effective of a deterrent as you'd think it'd be. i mean, yeah, that person dies, but other people don't get it. i have no idea why not.


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They should have them bring birthday cakes to jealous monkeys.

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Z Wrote:
Billzebub Wrote:
druucifer Wrote:
it makes sense to look into how to treat these people, since basically all of them get out of prison eventually.

Not if you kill 'em.

for some reason, that's not as effective of a deterrent as you'd think it'd be. i mean, yeah, that person dies, but other people don't get it. i have no idea why not.


i disagree. if we killed every single person that put their disgusting hands on a child in a sexual manner, i think folks would get the point. problem is, this country is full of a bunch of whining little bitches that say "oooh no, don't kill the poor soul, he needs treatment, he can be helped."

fuck that. they need to die. there's no reason they should live on after destroying a child's life, and possibly turning them into the same type of person they were.


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Dalen Wrote:
Z Wrote:
Billzebub Wrote:
druucifer Wrote:
it makes sense to look into how to treat these people, since basically all of them get out of prison eventually.

Not if you kill 'em.

for some reason, that's not as effective of a deterrent as you'd think it'd be. i mean, yeah, that person dies, but other people don't get it. i have no idea why not.


i disagree. if we killed every single person that put their disgusting hands on a child in a sexual manner, i think folks would get the point. problem is, this country is full of a bunch of whining little bitches that say "oooh no, don't kill the poor soul, he needs treatment, he can be helped."

fuck that. they need to die. there's no reason they should live on after destroying a child's life, and possibly turning them into the same type of person they were.


But dudes that look at kiddie porn aren't even in the same stratosphere as dudes that touch kids (although it begs the question, if they look at it, what else do they do...)

Child Molestation should, at the very least, be an instant life sentence, with no fucking trial.

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I just think if you did want to treat these lunatics you'd have to deal with the fact that maybe their perceptions of beauty didn't mature with them. Maybe's there's some sort of gradual process where they can go up from Dakota Fanning to High School the Musical all the way to "MILFs on the Bus Go Round and Round Vol. 5".


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I just think if you did want to treat these lunatics you'd have to deal with the fact that maybe their perceptions of beauty didn't mature with them. Maybe's there's some sort of gradual process where they can go up from Dakota Fanning to High School the Musical all the way to "MILFs on the Bus Go Round and Round Vol. 5".


You're 22, don't beat yourself up. You think America isn't obsessed with the same age group as you? Remember that Mary Kate and Ashley countdown clock? How long was THAT thing running, since they were in jr. high?

Besides as you get older, female high school chatter will become your kryptonite, and then early 20s female chatter, etc...

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Dalen Wrote:
Z Wrote:
Billzebub Wrote:
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it makes sense to look into how to treat these people, since basically all of them get out of prison eventually.

Not if you kill 'em.

for some reason, that's not as effective of a deterrent as you'd think it'd be. i mean, yeah, that person dies, but other people don't get it. i have no idea why not.


i disagree. if we killed every single person that put their disgusting hands on a child in a sexual manner, i think folks would get the point. problem is, this country is full of a bunch of whining little bitches that say "oooh no, don't kill the poor soul, he needs treatment, he can be helped."

fuck that. they need to die. there's no reason they should live on after destroying a child's life, and possibly turning them into the same type of person they were.

I don't think that death is necessarily the best deterrent for molesters. Nor do I think it's what the victims want. Like my molo grandfather, for instance. He ruined the youth of his five kids and consequently fucked up all of his grandchildren because our parents are nuts. He's still walking the earth, despite having a hand in my grandmother's death and ruining said lives. Do I want him dead? Does my mom want him dead? Nope, we want him to suffer like everyone else has had to suffer. Put his ass in a public forum and let victims throw rocks and bottles at him. Medevial torture might deter these sickos.

And I hate to say this, but at least kids under three who are abused might not remember the abuse if there's no physical damage. Fucking sick that this even happens. I've never understood wanting to have sex with someone who is not physically mature. I want to look at men with hair on them and women with curves. (No offense if you're hairless [asian men] or stick thin [calista flockhart]) Also, who doesn't want a partner who is going to reciprocate? I could go on and on... fucking animals.

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Dalen Wrote:
Z Wrote:
Billzebub Wrote:
druucifer Wrote:
it makes sense to look into how to treat these people, since basically all of them get out of prison eventually.

Not if you kill 'em.

for some reason, that's not as effective of a deterrent as you'd think it'd be. i mean, yeah, that person dies, but other people don't get it. i have no idea why not.


i disagree. if we killed every single person that put their disgusting hands on a child in a sexual manner, i think folks would get the point. problem is, this country is full of a bunch of whining little bitches that say "oooh no, don't kill the poor soul, he needs treatment, he can be helped."

fuck that. they need to die. there's no reason they should live on after destroying a child's life, and possibly turning them into the same type of person they were.


do you really think child molesters are thinking about the legal consequences of what they're doing? for deterrence to work, you have to believe there's a harsh punishment, and that you'll be caught. by its very nature, child molestation is the kind of crime few people get caught for (takes place in the home, many victims don't know they're victimized, etc.) in any event, it's a lot more akin to a crime of passion than a calculated, rational crime (like armed robbery)--those types of crimes are extremely difficult to deter no matter how high the penalties.
i think if every state had the death penalty for child molesters, you'd see less convictions. a jury is going to be a lot more squeamish about sending somebody to death (oftentimes based on the testimony of a child) than sending them to prison for a long period of time. not to mention you would be handing child molesters all of the procedural protections we have for people on death row--courts are a hell of a lot more likely to find minor errors harmful in a death penalty case.
the argument isn't "treat, don't punish" it's "punish and treat." being tough on child molesters doesn't mean we can't be smart about it.

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