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 Post subject: 2006 SHMOO POLL RESULTS: Day 1
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This is the first installment of the 2006 Shmoo Poll Results which will run from today through Sunday. This time, there was a three-way tie for #19 so there is no #20 (or #21 for that matter).

Thanks to everyone who contributed blurbs for these albums.


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19a. Silversun Pickups - Carnavas

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Outside of The Cranberries (merely typing their name is instantaneously sending my brain into "ZO-OM-BIE-IE-IE-IE"-induced convulsions), there probably wasn't a single "alternative" band I enjoyed less back in the '90s than Smashing Pumpkins. So, when word began circulating about a band called Silversun Pickups sounding like the second coming of Corgan and Co., I was overcome with disinterest. In fact, I probably would have been more open to the resurrection of Jesus Jones. In my book, "Disarm" is infinitely more deserving of crucifixion than "Right Here Right Now," which is really worthy of nothing more than a public stoning. But finally, after enough people whose opinions I respect raved about them (and having my interest piqued by being under the mistaken impression that their album was named after Chipotle's pork-stuffed burrito), I decided to give Carnavas a chance . And though I could definitely hear the Smashing Pumpkins similarities, I realized my beef had been almost exclusively with Corgan's shrill whiney voice. This is what Smashing Pumpkins would sound like with a decent singer. This is a more melodic brand of noise rock.

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I’ll start out with a disclaimer here- this one falls into my “Never Heard Before” category. The following should be considered an initial impression only, and not any kind of in-depth review born of repeated listens.

1) Melatonin- Fuzzy, semi-grungy guitar riffs and fairly one- dimensional vocals. Not getting a good feeling here.
2) Well Thought Out Twinkle- By the 2 minute mark in cut 2, I’m convinced that the lead singer’s balls haven’t dropped yet.
3) Checkered Floor- Droning, but a bit better than the first 2 tracks.
4) Little Lovers so Polite- It’s all starting to sound the same. The music tries to drag the vocals along faster than they’re willing to travel.
5) Future Foe Scenarios- By now, I’m desperately wanting someone to smash the fuzzbox.
6) Waste It On- O dear.
7) Lazy Eye- At around the mid-point of this 7:27 minute cut, demons are unleashed. By the 6 minute mark, I’m praying for death.
8) Rusted Wheel- apt description.
9) Dream At Tempo 119- disintegrates at about 3minutes in, but inexplicably goes on for another 2 minutes.
10) Three Seed- 4 too many.
11) Common Reactor- Singer needs to learn rudimentary breath control. The ending sounds like a minute’s worth of unused sound effects from a bad war movie.

For me, the songs are all at least 2 minutes longer than they have any need to be, are lyrically uninteresting, and there’s a general lack of focus in any of it.

Obviously, this one must have garnered enough votes to make the final cut, so I hope no one is too offended by my impressions, but this isn’t anywhere close to the style of music I normally listen to, and it gives me no burning desire to explore further. Maybe if I was 30 years younger, it would have more appeal.



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19b. The Format - Dog Problems

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I remember seeing Wilco at Summerfest in 2003, gazing from the outskirts of the crowd with my fiancée and good friend beside me, catching part of the performance from a nearby ferris wheel, wrapped in a cool breeze and serene, dark sky, laid back but having a blast.

This is how I feel when listening to The Format’s “Dog Problems”. Replace “Wilco” with “Says Pop”-era Roman Candle and you’ve trapped cotton candy in a bottle ruminating on friends, relationships and life in general in between spurts on your favorite carnival ride. The keyboard intro to the brief “Matches” beckons all who listen to enter. Nate Ruess then wants to “take the next hour to talk about me” on “I’m actual” where you can feel the gate opening and the hot dogs heating up. He seems tentative to enter, but ends in a flourish to “talk about me” in a scene conjuring holding hands with mary poppins and penguins on entering. “Time Bomb” already has him asking “was it worth it?” Starting over, he’s ready to “sleep with the first person” he meets in one of the most catchy numbers “tick tock”ing down the fun. Fully-charged, he observes his chick “doesn’t get it” wanting to take her home after the festivities have concluded. The rest of the album marches along the concession stands and water-pistol games of life – dig the playful horns on the momentum-building title track, the hope for happiness on “oceans”, the breezy simplistic envy of “snails”. By the time they reach “the compromise” he wants to meet his absent lover the next morning and enjoy life all over again professing “he loves being in love” in “inches and falling” returning to the fair “if work permits”, rocking out the album’s experience. Lazy summer days never felt better.

Sleepytime Tea:
This album has nothing to do with dogs or their problems. Nearest I can tell, there isn't mention of dogs anywhere. It's poppy, and happy, and while I can't deny some of the tunes they come up with, the layers of frosting applied here just sort of deliver a really, really clean vanilla cake. There's all sorts of instrumentation here (I think I heard a harpsichord in there, and violins), and it sounds lovely in spots. But it just sounds so damned chipper.

And this is a breakup album! Are you fucking kidding me? Did he break up with a goddamned Oompa Loompa? Breakups are supposed to be devastating. Breakup albums are supposed to be raw nerve endings and desperation. I mean look what one did to Beck, and normally you can’t get that guy out of his Prince pants. This sounds like something white people listen to on their way to pick up frozen yogurt. Actually, this album should be called "mini-golf and frozen yogurt". It’s probably not fair that I review this, though, considering how much all pop sounds the same to me. I actually had to check twice in my first listen to make sure that these guys aren’t from Sweden. I got all excited just to head a fuzzy-toned guitar, but then they started in with the backing vocals and I gave up.

It just dawned on me that I got this far without mentioning at all how the album sounds, so I should clear that up: Elton John, raping the Apples in Stereo in the musical instrument department of a Sears. That makes a much better review anyway.



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19c. The Thermals - The Body, the Blood, the Machine

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Maybe a basic familiarity with Christian scripture would offer some more insight into the inspiration behind “The Body, The Blood, The Machine” — the third batch of fitful fuzz and fuss from Portland’s The Thermals — but even as a total heathen I think I get the picture. It’s right there on the album cover; a blinded Jesus opening his arms to an Earth dwarfed by a junkyard with lots of TV sets, aka the altars of secular society. Then there’s the lyrics: God bleeding on the land and bringing a flood to Noah; Jesus getting mankind out of spiritual hock; locusts, tornadoes and Nazi halos. And that’s just the first three minutes.

So have The Thermals gotten religion? Not exactly, but the trio is clearly (to quote “Pulp Fiction”’s possibly soulless Marcellus Wallace) “contemplating the ifs.” What if we can’t turn the yoke hard enough to the left (we presume) and keep society from collectively crashing into the mountain? What if we’ve really got to pay for all this? And — in a blast of temerity — what if all this worry is needless and the result of some grand ruse?

Solemn questions all. And as would be the case of any bunch still sniffing 30, the only reasonable answer is to summon the joyous noise of the holy trinity of electric guitar, bass and drums. Ditching the holy artifice for a second to focus on sonics, “The Body...” is the fullest and most hefty The Thermals have ever sounded. Not bloated or grandiose, just that everything’s turned up and buffed out just the way it should be. It’s there in the thunderous drum opening of “An Ear For Baby,” and the jangly effected guitar of “St. Rosa And The Swallows.” And it’s all there on the absolutely perfect “Pillar of Salt,” a bounding tale of a couple outrunning their carnal nature while hoping, of course, that Jesus really does save.

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Before first listen, the Thermals' The Body, The Blood, The Machine emits a punk vibe solely on its political name and DIY (and even more political) album cover.  While the punk influence is strong on the Portland group's third offering, the total package comes out a bit more polished.  One senses an ambition to create the quintessential indie power-pop record: dorkier than Franz Intermonkeys but slightly cooler than Pavement, more accessible than Built to Spill but not as saccharine as the Elephant 6 crew (or even Guided by Voices).  It's a balance many bands achieve on the occasional track, but maintaining it through the course of an entire LP is a huge challenge.  Body/Blood/Machine may not meet said aspirations, but it still has a lot of appeal.  Hutch Harris' vocals evoke Ted Leo's style and urgency, especially in minor-key romps "Here's Your Future" and "Power Doesn't Run on Nothing."  The other tracks' upbeat power-chord progressions lighten the overly serious lyrics.  Some song transitions give a nod to shoegaze by adding feedback or a delay-loop.  While the Thermals haven't totally abandoned their lo-fi ethos, this album reflects a sense of maturity, especially compared to snippets from their prior records.  That sense of growth alone shows a lot of promise for their next release.


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So there's TWO blurbs for every album? That explains why there were so many assignments. Cool, I guess.

Thanks Drinky, shmoo, Haq and everyone for putting all this together.

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Varied opinions is cool.

It does make it confusing which category of opinion I would fall into though.


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Sleepytime Tea Wrote:
This sounds like something white people listen to on their way to pick up frozen yogurt.

That's the best thing I've read on the internets in a while.

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I’m convinced that the lead singer’s balls haven’t dropped yet.


That's funny, I assumed it was the girl who was the singer, but now that I checked with Allmusic, I find out that I'm wrong. Yikes!


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It's interesting how the two albums that Stop Breathin' was conflicted about are tied for 19th.


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Digging the rolled release. Good call, Drinky. Thanks again for taking charge of the blurbs.


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The Thermals are on my "missed in 06" list for 07.'

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Digging the rolled release. Good call, Drinky. Thanks again for taking charge of the blurbs.

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Indeed. This is great. Thanks.

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Sleepytime Tea:
This album has nothing to do with dogs or their problems. Nearest I can tell, there isn't mention of dogs anywhere. It's poppy, and happy, and while I can't deny some of the tunes they come up with, the layers of frosting applied here just sort of deliver a really, really clean vanilla cake. There's all sorts of instrumentation here (I think I heard a harpsichord in there, and violins), and it sounds lovely in spots. But it just sounds so damned chipper.

And this is a breakup album! Are you fucking kidding me? Did he break up with a goddamned Oompa Loompa? Breakups are supposed to be devastating. Breakup albums are supposed to be raw nerve endings and desperation. I mean look what one did to Beck, and normally you can’t get that guy out of his Prince pants. This sounds like something white people listen to on their way to pick up frozen yogurt. Actually, this album should be called "mini-golf and frozen yogurt". It’s probably not fair that I review this, though, considering how much all pop sounds the same to me. I actually had to check twice in my first listen to make sure that these guys aren’t from Sweden. I got all excited just to head a fuzzy-toned guitar, but then they started in with the backing vocals and I gave up.

It just dawned on me that I got this far without mentioning at all how the album sounds, so I should clear that up: Elton John, raping the Apples in Stereo in the musical instrument department of a Sears. That makes a much better review anyway.


This is awesome


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Two of my top 5 at #19? Booo, obner.

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heh heh. sweden.

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cotton should do all the blurbs.

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Yeah, cotton's Format blurb is one of my favorites.

Not a whole lot of people really brought the hate, but that could be more my fault with how I assigned the blurbs. I actually had no idea cotton would react so negatively to this one.


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I actually had no idea cotton would react so negatively to this one.


He's a sleeper for sure. Just when you think he's all warm and fuzzy, BAM!

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For this review, Cotton originally Wrote:
A few years ago, in the height of the taco bell-inspired fever, my sister-in-law bought a Chihuahua. Being a large dog family, it received little affection from the rest of us, and it took her a few weeks to realize that she didn't really like it either. It would sit there and shiver and bark and pee. So she gave it to a friend of hers with different tastes in pets and picked herself up a Chesapeake Bay retriever. My nephews, who at that age just wanted something to pet, wanted to know where the dog went and my brother, scrambling for an answer that didn't include the truth, told him that "Pedro got a job". Apparently, it worked. To this day, if you ask my older nephew where Pedro went, he'll say "he's at work" like you're an idiot for not knowing. This dog problem is about 20 times better than that crappy album


hey, my TVOTR review is positively glowing. As a result, it's very poorly written.

<-- much better at hating.

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The Thermals are on my "missed in 06" list for 07.'


seriously, I'm shocked more people haven't been left as a pair or smoking shoes by that album.


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Is there any way to see which album was on who's list when doing these posts (and where), or is that too much of a pain in the ass?
I think it'd be interesting.

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Sleepytime Tea Wrote:
Old Kingfish Lee Wrote:
The Thermals are on my "missed in 06" list for 07.'


seriously, I'm shocked more people haven't been left as a pair or smoking shoes by that album.


never heard it myself. I guess I should remedy that?

you done good recommending The Hold Steady to me. Real good.

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Yail Bloor Wrote:
never heard it myself. I guess I should remedy that?

you done good recommending The Hold Steady to me. Real good.


I'd recommend the Hold Steady to you just because I know they're similar to a lot of things you like. The Thermals is simple punkish rock with vocals that could be described as a little bratty. You might well love it, but I wouldn't recommend it to you so quickly as the hold steady. I'd check out "Returning to the Fold" if you get the chance. I'll email it to you when I get home if it's not on hype machine.

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Drinky Wrote:
Sleepytime Tea:
This album has nothing to do with dogs or their problems. Nearest I can tell, there isn't mention of dogs anywhere. It's poppy, and happy, and while I can't deny some of the tunes they come up with, the layers of frosting applied here just sort of deliver a really, really clean vanilla cake. There's all sorts of instrumentation here (I think I heard a harpsichord in there, and violins), and it sounds lovely in spots. But it just sounds so damned chipper.

And this is a breakup album! Are you fucking kidding me? Did he break up with a goddamned Oompa Loompa? Breakups are supposed to be devastating. Breakup albums are supposed to be raw nerve endings and desperation. I mean look what one did to Beck, and normally you can’t get that guy out of his Prince pants. This sounds like something white people listen to on their way to pick up frozen yogurt. Actually, this album should be called "mini-golf and frozen yogurt". It’s probably not fair that I review this, though, considering how much all pop sounds the same to me. I actually had to check twice in my first listen to make sure that these guys aren’t from Sweden. I got all excited just to head a fuzzy-toned guitar, but then they started in with the backing vocals and I gave up.

It just dawned on me that I got this far without mentioning at all how the album sounds, so I should clear that up: Elton John, raping the Apples in Stereo in the musical instrument department of a Sears. That makes a much better review anyway.


This is an awesome Chuck Klosterman imitation

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this top 20 obner list is going to be interesting.

p.s. cotton's blurb rules. oompa loompa. hahaha.

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I've never heard a note from any of these bands.

Silversun Pickups win, though, for being the only without nauseatingly bad cover art.


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