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Yail Bloor
 Post subject: The Mount Rushmore of Rock
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Hank Williams is a legend and the foundation for so much of what followed. There is no single person more important in the history of country music and likely never will be. Anything to honor his memory that can be done should be done.


^from that other thread^

This got me thinking; If you could make a Mt. Rushmore with the three most important artists in the history and development of rock + one sorta wildcard person (for Teddy Roosevelt), who would they be?

I'm going with:

Hank Williams
Chuck Berry
Bob Dylan
Buddy Holly

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Hank Williams
Chuck Berry
Robert Johnson
James Brown


It's a tough one keeping it down to 4
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Radcliffe Wrote:
Yail Bloor Wrote:
Hank Williams
Chuck Berry
Robert Johnson
James Brown


It's a tough one keeping it down to 4


true. and my list has too many white guys on it.

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Hank Williams
Jimi Hendrix
Chuck Berry
John Lennon

Feck, I feel like Bob Dylan, Jerry Lee, and Bruce should be on there too.

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Kingfish Wrote:
Hank Williams
Jimi Hendrix
Chuck Berry
John Lennon

Feck, I feel like Bob Dylan, Jerry Lee, and Bruce should be on there too.


I dont feel like you can separate Lennon from McCarthey or Jagger from Richards.

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Yail Bloor Wrote:
Kingfish Wrote:
Hank Williams
Jimi Hendrix
Chuck Berry
John Lennon

Feck, I feel like Bob Dylan, Jerry Lee, and Bruce should be on there too.


I dont feel like you can separate Lennon from McCarthey or Jagger from Richards.


Well, I thought about that and I think the Beatles need some sort of representation. And if you're going with one, than it's gonna be Lennon.

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If it's going to be Rock, I'm gonna have to keep it to the Rock people, and not include Hank, as much as he;s deserving:

Elvis Presley (How could you argue his place in popularizing the style? Plus... that early Sun stuff was unfuckwithable)
Chuck Berry
Beatles (perhaps a composite of the 4?)
Jimi Hendrix (the end-all of rock guitar)

Yeah, Dylan should be there.
Yeah, Buddy Holly should, too.
And about 20 others...

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Well, I thought about that and I think the Beatles need some sort of representation. And if you're going with one, than it's gonna be Lennon.

I'll respectfully disagree, but its your mountain, pal.

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my mountain is so much cooler than your mountain.

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Hank, Chuck, Buddy, and IGGY. My mountain is gonna represent for whitey.

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I'd need a bigger mountain. Four's really tough.

And, to start with Hank, you're going beyind rock into country, so does that mean we should also include jazz?

I'm gonna leave Hank off and just do rock...and keep it strictly old school...

Elvis
Chuck Berry
Little Richard
Jerry Lee


And, I still left off tons of people that are just as deserving as those four. Even a top ten is pretty damn hard.

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Then again, maybe just go with

Sid
Iggy
Lou
Joey

make that fucker ugly

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Monstrous hybrid face of Jagger/Richards
Semi-attractive hybrid face of Lennon/McCartney
Vague composite face to represent Black People
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Buddy Holly
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Hank Williams
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nobody Wrote:
I'd need a bigger mountain. Four's really tough.

And, to start with Hank, you're going beyind rock into country, so does that mean we should also include jazz?


Yeah, but jazz doesnt really factor into the early evolution of rock as much as country and blues.

I mean rock at its core is either blackin' up some country or whitin' up some blues, right?

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Elvis
The Beatles
The Smiths
Oasis

(subject to change every other week)

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Yail Bloor Wrote:

I mean rock at its core is either blackin' up some country or whitin' up some blues, right?


Yeah, I can see that. Of course, then for tossin' in Hank, you'd wanna toss in Robert Johnson or somebody from the blues side of the fence. Then , you're down to 2 slots and you haven't even gotten past 1953 with only 2 spots to fill.

Still fun to try...but no way to boil things down to four guys.

I wouldn't mind findin' room for Bo Diddley on there either.
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Good thread.

I'm going with the all-star black mountain if we're talking about the real roots of rock and roll here.

Ike Turner
Chuck Berry
Jimi Hendrix
Prince

Why the fuck not

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Yail Bloor Wrote:
one sorta wildcard person (for Teddy Roosevelt)

Heheh.


I'll change my mind tomorrow, but right now:

James Brown
Bob Dylan
Elvis Presley
Muddy Waters

Hard to leave off Hank Williams and, well, pretty much everyone who's not American, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it until I change my mind.

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David Gates
Paul Davis
Lobo
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south pacific Wrote:
Ike Turner
Chuck Berry
Jimi Hendrix
Prince

Why the fuck not


Great call on Ike; I knew I was missing a monster.

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Elvis Presley(Washington)
Buddy Holly (Jefferson)
Chuck Berry (Lincoln)
Bob Dylan(Roosevelt)

This is the only correct answer. There can be no non-americans on Mount Rockmore.
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I view Buddy Holly as more of an Alexander Hamilton. I also can't abide by Elvis--style and cultural impact aside, the dude never wrote shit, kind of like Joan Jett. Then there's the whole Vegas/Honolulu feather boa body suit thing--sooooo un-rock. Robert Johnson I view as more of a John Locke, a colossal influence, but from a different field. James Brown *almost* gets dinged with this too, but there's enough rock to keep him on the hillside.

Chuck Berry
Hank Williams
Link Wray
James Brown

I think Bob Dylan gets bumped by Hank--Dylan would have made it for his lyrics and Hank trumps him.

And Loogs, when did you jump on the Iggy bus?
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