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 Post subject: Anyone know how royalty payments for music on TV/film works?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 8:18 pm 
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I was listening to 'Shaun of the Dead' commentary and on it Simon Pegg says they had to pay a band (I think it was Chicago, but I've forgotten exactly) £10,000 for literally a few seconds of a song (It comes on the juke box to aid a joke.)

That seems like an enormous amount of money to me for maybe 10 seconds at most of music.

How does it work? Do you simply haggle a price with the songwriter/publishing company until you can both agree a price? Are there standard fees? Or is there a formula for working out how much you pay (like radio)? What are the average prices paid for using a song in a TV programme or film?

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From what I understand, they essentially set the price themselves. If you want to cover a song, you only have to pay a nominal fee based on a fixed system, but to use the actual song, it's totally determined by the owner of the rights.

That's why nobody uses Beatles songs, but lots have Beatles covers.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 8:24 pm 
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i know that one factor in cancelling "freaks & geeks" was that each episode's budget for royalties was exorbitant. i've also heard some people grouse about the rolling stones' royalty fees. they're apparently insane.


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It often comes down to haggling (especially with the indies), though you're gonna pay big if you want a song on a major label. They've got set rates, and they're bullies about it - though they often make deals with major release films (ie: you can have this song by the Flaming Lips, but only if you put this Nickelback tune on the soundtrack as well*).

My wife had to license a Sparklehorse song for a documentary on Guy Maddin (he directed a Sparklehorse video), and Mark Linkous was 100% accomodating but Capitol Records were total cocksuckers and blocked it at every turn. I think Maddin and/or Linkous had to directly complain to the Capitol suits before they finally caved.



* probably not on the same label, but I'm speakin' hypothetically here.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:56 pm 
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Linkous was cool with it because he has the ability to approve Synchronization license through his publishing company.

You have to get a Mechanical license from the label because they own the physical record, not the song (Synch license), and they usually ask a substantial fee.

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