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Alright, y'all know how I am about this... every July, I get a little bit more happy watching the boys duke it out on the road.

Caught the prologue Saturday night and stage 1 yesterday. It sucks watching coverage in the morning getting ready for work, because I'm not around long enough to see the finish. However, I will say about stage 1: fucking Robbie McEwen! That guy is a goddamned bullet coming out of nowhere on that bike. The guy went down in a crash, and still managed to win the stage. I was watching, and I'm looking out for him, because he always appears out of nowhere, and I'm not seeing him. Well, fuck me, there he is coming around the edge of the pack, and wins the stage. The guy is phenomenal. You can see it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p8n6dfJoYc

You really can see it on the last shot, from above.

I'm kinda excited about this Tour only because there are no real "big" names in contention right now for the win, and hopefully there will be less emphasis on the whole doping aspect. Levi Leipheimer? Meh. I wouldn't be upset if he didn't win, but he's not the one I'd like to see win. My money is on this guy:

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Alexander Vinokourov.

Another guy who's got real potential to win this year is Andreas Kloden on Team CSC.

Tom Boonen (aka Hottie McFineAss) should have won the stage today, but his teammate took it from him instead, and there was a big pileup 3K from the end, even took down Fabian Cancellara, the current guy in the maillot-jeune.

As far as Americans are concerned, the ones to watch this year are:

David Zabriskie (Team CSC) - typically a speed demon in the time trials, but he's proving to be an all-around GC rider too.

Chris Horner (Predictor-Lotto) - this guy's from Oregon actually, and started out in mtn. biking so he's great on the hills, but he's also proving himself to be a good GC rider.

Levi Leipheimer (Discovery) - eh. whatever.

George Hincapie (Discovery) - George is a great rider, but there are no intentions on him winning the Tour. He's the lieutenant to Leipheimer this year.

Anybody else watching?


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i'm a guy who gets pretty seriously into sports that are more european-based like soccer and tennis but i just can't get psyched for this. the tv coverage has to be the most boring thing ever. seriously...worse than golf or curling or anything else you can imagine. and i hate to take a nascar approach and watch just for the crashes. even when lance was racking them up i never watched. i'll certainly read about it and keep abreast of who's leading but i won't watch.

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Yeah i love it. The flat stages i find a wee bit boring but the coverage on Eurosport is really good. They give you a bit of background on some of the towns and areas they pass through along with all the cycling chat which is pretty interesting. I cant wait for the mountain stages though.

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I just thought it was pretty cool that the prologue and stage 1 were both in England: prologue time trial in London, and stage 1 from London to Canterbury. But yeah, the mtn. stages are where it gets interesting.

Boring to watch? I guess some people might feel that way. I do know I fast forward through some of my recordings! I just like watching the strategy take place, the leaders, the eventual catch-up of the peloton, the looks on the faces of the riders, the technique... all of it.

edit: I should also add that I just am in awe of these types of athletes... spending pretty much 3 weeks straight riding typically over 100 miles a day. That's some strength and endurance, and I applaud anyone who takes it on, even the non-finishers.


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I just thought it was pretty cool that the prologue and stage 1 were both in England: prologue time trial in London, and stage 1 from London to Canterbury. But yeah, the mtn. stages are where it gets interesting.


I could have sworn that the prologue stages/stage 1 were in Ireland, way back when -- '98? -- so as not to conflict with France's World Cup hosting.


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ARGH!

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Filippo Pozzato (Liquigas) won the fifth stage of the 2007 Tour de France on Thursday.

The hilly, 182.5km stage from Chablis to Autun was a tough one for the Astana team, which saw both Alexandre Vinokourov and Andreas Klöden crash; the heavily favored Vino' lost 1:19 as a consequence.


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ARGH!

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Filippo Pozzato (Liquigas) won the fifth stage of the 2007 Tour de France on Thursday.

The hilly, 182.5km stage from Chablis to Autun was a tough one for the Astana team, which saw both Alexandre Vinokourov and Andreas Klöden crash; the heavily favored Vino' lost 1:19 as a consequence.


Very very close. You see the finish? Kloden can fuck off but Alex will be okay. Nasty hill tommorow. Hang on it could be Sat??


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Filippo Pozzato (Liquigas) won the fifth stage of the 2007 Tour de France on Thursday.

The hilly, 182.5km stage from Chablis to Autun was a tough one for the Astana team, which saw both Alexandre Vinokourov and Andreas Klöden crash; the heavily favored Vino' lost 1:19 as a consequence.


Very very close. You see the finish? Kloden can fuck off but Alex will be okay. Nasty hill tommorow. Hang on it could be Sat??


Didn't see finish this a.m., but I'm sure I'll see the recap tonight.


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oh yeah... Hottie McFineAss got the green sprinters jersey again today. See ya, Zabel. Hope you enjoyed for the day you had it. And yes, that's Zabel to the left of Tom in the green jersey.

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And you see this sort of thing all the time on the Tour, but I thought this was a great photo... Bradley Wiggins of Team Cofidis was the leader for a long time, and here the peloton comes!

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The Tour's morning newsflash came out of the Astana camp. After the ugliness of Thursday's stage when both Alexandre Vinokourov and Klöden crashed and had to be taken to the hospital, both were at the start line Friday.

"Klöden is in pain and will find it hard to get up on the pedals on the climbs," Astana team manager Marc Biver said before stage 6. "He seems demoralized. The most visible injuries aren't always the worst ones. We'll see how he goes."

Klöden, runner-up in the 2004 Tour and third last year, was diagnosed with a hairline fracture of his coccyx after crashing 107km into the 182.5km fifth stage and landing in a grassy ditch. Tour doctor Gerard Porte examined Klöden.

"From a medical point of view, there's no reason why he can't continue," the doctor said. "We'll have to see what kind of pains he has. The pain will determine if he can continue or not."

Pre-race GC favorite Vinokourov went down 25km from the finish and received stitches to his right knee and elbow. Both riders spent most of Friday at the back of the field, thankful for some rest before the real climbing begins.


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Love the tour, though the time difference is annoying - coverage only starts at 10:30pm, ends sometime after 1am or worse. Not so good when I've been starting work at 7:30am for the past week...

Yesterdays stage was pretty crazy. Rasmussen is unbelievable of course, but all the attacks and chopping of places was great to watch.

Horrible day from an Australian perspective though - 3 of our big names went out. Michael Rogers in particular is a big loss since he was in yellow on the road before the crash. At least Evans is still doing well.

Shame that McEwan is out too, but he hasn't been himself since that first stage. The green jersey is pretty much Boonen's now, which is ok since I like him and if McEwan can't get it Boonen's the one I would pick

This year is great to watch though cos there isn't that inevitability that Armstrong will just come in and take control in the Pyrenees. At the moment it seems like none of the big names really wants to take a big risk and stamp their authority


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Horrible day from an Australian perspective though - 3 of our big names went out. Michael Rogers in particular is a big loss since he was in yellow on the road before the crash. At least Evans is still doing well.


I felt so bad for Michael Rogers on Saturday. I know how hard it must be to work so hard for something, and have it slip away, esp. due to something as random as an injury. The poor guy gave it his all up to the end, and it just broke my heart to see him stop, put his head on his handlebars, and just cry... frustration like that can bring out such raw emotions, I know.

Cadel Evans did VERY well today, and I'm really proud of Disco's Popovych and Contador. Vino didn't look hot today AT ALL, but the guy is nursing injuries to both knees and an elbow from the earlier accident. I'm actually REALLY surprised Kloden is still in the mix, even with a broken tailbone.

This is turning out to be a very interesting and unpredictable Tour so far, but I dig it.


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So what happened to that dog that the guy hit?

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I dunno, I didn't see that in the live coverage, but as a responsible pet owner, whoever owned that dog should be kicked. HARD. Dumbass.

Dog appears to be fine, but who knows. Video here under Marcus Burghardt's accident


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The dog owner should be made to stand at the finish line and have all the riders smack him in the face with their gloves as they ride by.

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Or Dana could torture him with more pictures of sweaty men in spandex.

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Or Dana could torture him with more pictures of sweaty men in spandex.


Kyle, do you really feel this way? Think of this as my community outreach, in that I'm supplying valuable information about the cycling world to wow your less-enlightened friends with. ;)


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That's why I read it... I like hearing about the tour. What I like less are sweaty bulges. But you know... goood with the bad.

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
What I like less are sweaty bulges.


**high fives** the cap'n.


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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
What I like less are sweaty bulges.


**high fives** the cap'n.



...we like the same things.

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from a newsletter I got today re: predictions on win:

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Good race! We're being treated again to a Tour de France that promises not to be over till it's over.

Like last year when Floyd Landis came back from the dead to take the yellow jersey on the penultimate stage, we may not know this year's winner until the last rider finishes the 55.5-km time trial on July 28, the day before the riders promenade to Paris.

It's a far cry from the era of Lance Armstrong's textbook domination. He used the same formula for nearly the entire seven years -- win the first mountain stage, then kick butt in the time trials. As great as he was, he made it look easy. The Tour was always interesting but lacked drama.

Not this year. With half of the 20 stages remaining, nearly all of the dozen potential winners are in contention. Flat stages today and tomorrow will carry them to the first of two time trial showdowns, a hilly 54-km stage 13 test that's bound to shuffle the top 10.

The rider on the hot seat will be Michael Rasmussen (Rabobank), should he, as expected, arrive at the TT starting line on Saturday still in the yellow jersey.

The great Dane is perhaps cycling's best climber and he used that talent in the Alps to take over race leadership and the King of the Mountains competition. But a time trialist he isn't. Rasmussen finished 166th among the 189 riders in the Tour's prologue, and if he isn't well back in the field on Saturday it'll be a surprise.

Licking their chops are three riders in particular who have yellow aspirations. These are climbers who are also among the best against the clock. Cadel Evans (Predictor-Lotto) lies 4th, 2:41 behind Rasmussen. Andreas Kloden (Astana) is 8th at 3:50, one place ahead of Levi Leipheimer (Discovery Channel) at 3:53.

This isn't to discount the chances of Spanish climber Alejandro Valverde (Caisse D'Epargne). He's 2nd at 2:35 and the best sprinter among the nine riders still in contention. His time trialing is thought to be much improved.

Says Rabobank director Erik Dekker, "Who knows how much time Rasmussen will lose [in the two time trials]? It wouldn't be surprising if he loses five minutes, and seeing Valverde within that time isn't too good. Rasmussen worked on his position but he didn't do much training on the time trial bike."

Whether or not the man known as Chicken survives Saturday in first place, he'll have a chance to again put time on his rivals when the Tour hits the Pyrenees on Sunday, Monday and Wednesday (Tuesday is a rest day). These mountainous stages, following two fatigue-inducing weeks of racing, should be the most grueling of the Tour.

Then it all boils down to the long, flat time trial on July 28, the day before the Tour-ending promenade into Paris. At this point it's anyone's guess who will be sipping champagne in the peloton that Sunday.

Our guess at this midway point: Kloden.


Need I remind you folks that Kloden is the one with the fucking BROKEN TAILBONE????

Oh, and here's Michael "Chicken" Rasmussen. Can't think of a more appropriate nickname.

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Vinokourov is out due to a banned blood transfusion. His whole team quit, it is on Yahoo for those interested in reading it all.

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Vinokourov is out due to a banned blood transfusion. His whole team quit, it is on Yahoo for those interested in reading it all.



I just got an email that was sent to my whole dept. about it.


Pathetic.


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Vinokourov is out due to a banned blood transfusion. His whole team quit, it is on Yahoo for those interested in reading it all.


Yeah, so fucking annoying. Some of the cat and mouse duels over the last two days have been so much fun and then this tosser gets done and ruins it all. You'd think they would bloody learn. Borat team.

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wow, all I can say is that really sucks.


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To quote my buddy Tim, who rode pro from like 90'ish to 98'ish, "they're all doping. If they don't, they don't win." It raised the bar, so that if you wanted to stay competitive, you had to do something. And he rode with the heavies - 96 US Olympic team, Lance, everyone.

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