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 Post subject: The "Loudness War," or why music is sounding more muddled these days
PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:09 pm 
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The first I've heard of this was in that Steve Albini interview:

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Hey Steve,

Do you do any mastering work and how valuable is it to a recording? Do you have a take on the so called 'loudness war'?


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mastering is the last step before CDs or records are mass-produced. Lately there has been a trend toward making records "loud" at this stage by compressing and clipping the audio for a more aggressive sound. I am of the opinion that the record shouldn't leave the studio until it is pretty close to exactly what the band want, and consequently I prefer more judicious mastering.

If a record needs aggressive mastering to "save" it, then aggressive mastering isn't enough to save it. Given a choice between sound quality and apparent loudness, I will side with sound quality every time.


Here's a little story from Yahoo, and a 2 minute video on Youtube that explains the issue. (warning: the video gets loud for a couple seconds about 1 minute in)

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Never mind that today's factory-produced starlets and mini-clones just don't have the practiced chops of the supergroups of yesteryear, pop in a new CD and you might notice that the quality of the music itself—maybe something as simple as a snare drum hit—just doesn't sound as crisp and as clear as you're used to. Why is that?

It's part of the music industry's quest to make music louder and louder, and it's been going on for decades, at least since the birth of the compact disc. Click the link for a nice little video, a mere 2 minutes long, which explains it in detail, with audio cues that you'll be able to hear in crisp detail.

The key to the problem is that, in making the soft parts of a track louder (in the process making the entire track loud), you lose detail in the song: The difference between what's supposed to be loud and what's supposed to be soft becomes less and less. The result is that, sure, the soft parts of a song are nice and loud, but big noises like drum beats become muffled and fuzzy. But consumers often subconsciously equate loudness with quality, and thus, record producers pump up the volume. Anything to make a buck.

The bigger problem is that this is all unnecessary. Stereo equipment is more powerful today than ever, and last time I checked, every piece of music hardware had a volume knob.

Don't take my word for it: Pop in the first CD you bought and play it at the same volume level as the most recent one you bought. You might be shocked by what you hear.

Anyone still wondering why the music business is suffering?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:12 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:22 pm 
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souless record exec: we had to make your album a bit louder, guys.

band: a lot of the dynamics seem to be missing.

souless record exec: dynamics?


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that new shellac has parts that are just eerily quiet
its friggin great

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yeah, shit's annoying.

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catswilleatyou Wrote:
that new shellac has parts that are just eerily quiet
its friggin great


Same with the Neurosis album (also Albini-produced).


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Finch Platte Wrote:
Billzebub Wrote:
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The was the EXACT post I was going to make.
Excellent.

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the new Smashing Pumpkins album is victim of this shit. way too compressed imo.


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