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 Post subject: What's the dealio w/ the ending of Gran Torino?? (SPOILER ALERT)
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I'm just now getting to see this as it just came out on DVD.

At the end, where Walt gets pumped full of bullets by the gangsters- you mean to tell me they all hung around waiting for the cops to show up to be arrested? :roll:

You know that in real life, they would have all jumped in their rice rockets to scatter before the wind.

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 Post subject: Re: What's the dealio w/ the ending of Gran Torino?? (SPOILER ALERT)
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You know that in real life, they would have all jumped in their rice rockets to scatter before the wind.


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I didn't mind the fact that there were still thugs around to arrest.... (the character might have called in advance, the house might have been watched) but rather we were to believe that all the Hmong neighbors would testify againt the thugs now, but before when they brutialized the young girl all the Hmong community wouldn't talk to the cops... why suddenly were they willing to work with the authorities. The plot was weak... the colors were primary... but in general it was better than I expected.

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At the end, where Walt gets pumped full of bullets by the gangsters- you mean to tell me they all hung around waiting for the cops to show up to be arrested? :roll:
I read it as, when it's hmong on hmong crime, it's better to deal with it internally, but when you involve the outsiders and the white man, then nothing in your code of honor makes you deal with it as a family matter.


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worst movie.... Eastwood could have been in grumpy old men with that character he played... hated it.


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also totally lame the way clint fell backwards and landed arms outstretched like jeebus


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man, I loved this film.


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I didn't mind the fact that there were still thugs around to arrest.... (the character might have called in advance, the house might have been watched) but rather we were to believe that all the Hmong neighbors would testify againt the thugs now, but before when they brutialized the young girl all the Hmong community wouldn't talk to the cops... why suddenly were they willing to work with the authorities. The plot was weak... the colors were primary... but in general it was better than I expected.


I finally saw this last night and thought it was pretty great. I agree with most of what harry has said but I think I liked it more than him.

I think if you're letting the fact that the gang members didn't scatter after the shooting then you're missing the point.

I read a decent review comparing Eastwood's character to John Wayne's "Ethan" in The Searchers. Both are war vets with tons of hate in their heart and are massive racists. Ethan with the Comanche's and Walt with everyone. But, both come to find salvation in the people they try to help/save in the end. Although I think Gran Torino wraps things up a bit too tidy and John Ford gives us a much more ambiguous ending in The Searchers, I thought it was an interesting comparison.

I thought Eastwood was great and found myself laughing at his open racism and constant insults throughout the whole movie. His was easily the best performance. Everyone else was either decent or pretty bad. Thao, for instance, was terrible and the preacher was okay but up against Eastwood he looked like an amatuer.

Still, solid movie. Question though, did you have sympathy for Walt at the end? Does one good deed erase a lifetime of being a complete piece of shit?


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harry Wrote:
I didn't mind the fact that there were still thugs around to arrest.... (the character might have called in advance, the house might have been watched) but rather we were to believe that all the Hmong neighbors would testify againt the thugs now, but before when they brutialized the young girl all the Hmong community wouldn't talk to the cops... why suddenly were they willing to work with the authorities. The plot was weak... the colors were primary... but in general it was better than I expected.


I finally saw this last night and thought it was pretty great. I agree with most of what harry has said but I think I liked it more than him.

I think if you're letting the fact that the gang members didn't scatter after the shooting then you're missing the point.

I read a decent review comparing Eastwood's character to John Wayne's "Ethan" in The Searchers. Both are war vets with tons of hate in their heart and are massive racists. Ethan with the Comanche's and Walt with everyone. But, both come to find salvation in the people they try to help/save in the end. Although I think Gran Torino wraps things up a bit too tidy and John Ford gives us a much more ambiguous ending in The Searchers, I thought it was an interesting comparison.

I thought Eastwood was great and found myself laughing at his open racism and constant insults throughout the whole movie. His was easily the best performance. Everyone else was either decent or pretty bad. Thao, for instance, was terrible and the preacher was okay but up against Eastwood he looked like an amatuer.

Still, solid movie. Question though, did you have sympathy for Walt at the end? Does one good deed erase a lifetime of being a complete piece of shit?


He wasn't a complete piece of shit. His kids and their kids were cunts, so his hatred towards them was justified.

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Rick Derris Wrote:
I thought Eastwood was great and found myself laughing at his open racism and constant insults throughout the whole movie.


There were some well written lines...they must have brought in a team of "hate experts" for that purpose. Frankly, I'm disappointed I wasn't contacted.

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Rick Derris Wrote:
I thought Eastwood was great and found myself laughing at his open racism and constant insults throughout the whole movie.


There were some well written lines...they must have brought in a team of "hate experts" for that purpose. Frankly, I'm disappointed I wasn't contacted.


His open contempt for the priest was great as well. For some reason, calling a priest 'padre' seems so incredibly condescending and funny.

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[ For some reason, calling a priest 'padre' seems so incredibly condescending and funny.


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2:17 in this scene had me choking on my soda in the theatre:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8coq2cUn1U

"oooh yeah."

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2:17 in this scene had me choking on my soda in the theatre:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8coq2cUn1U

"oooh yeah."


Scenes like this remind me of my mother, the way she's unstable on uneven terrain. Clint looks like he could totter into a gopher hole & break an ankle at any minute.

Wonder if he was acting, or if he's really that unsteady?

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