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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:23 pm 
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I'm a big fan of Jim Carroll as an author and poet, but I haven't really listened to any of his music. I'm currently reading his second diary "Forced Entries" which has been pretty great so far. I've heard People Who've Died, but that's it. Is the rest of his stuff worth seeking out? Where should I start?

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 Post subject: Re: Jim Carroll Band
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Seriously great album. "People Who Died" is only the tip of the iceberg. "Wicked Gravity", "Crow", and "City Drops Into The Night" are even better.

Huge drop off in quality after that album. Still Life and Dry Dreams aren't terrible, but they're not exactly essential either.


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 Post subject: Re: Jim Carroll Band
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Seriously great album. "People Who Died" is only the tip of the iceberg. "Wicked Gravity", "Crow", and "City Drops Into The Night" are even better.

Huge drop off in quality after that album. Still Life and Dry Dreams aren't terrible, but they're not exactly essential either.


People who died is jam up, but Wicked Gravity might be my fave Jim Carroll song.

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catholic boy really is a great album. picked it up a year or so ago.

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start and end with:

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Seriously great album. "People Who Died" is only the tip of the iceberg. "Wicked Gravity", "Crow", and "City Drops Into The Night" are even better.


That.

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Radcliffe Wrote:
start and end with:

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Seriously great album. "People Who Died" is only the tip of the iceberg. "Wicked Gravity", "Crow", and "City Drops Into The Night" are even better.


That.


Can anyone upload this? I was going to order the CD, but I only see overpriced imports.


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 Post subject: Re: Jim Carroll Band
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Sweet, going to be listening to this today. I love it when people can successfully cross platforms. I can't think of any other writers to do this, but I'm sure there must be some.

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I love it when people can successfully cross platforms. I can't think of any other writers to do this, but I'm sure there must be some.

Patti Smith
Leonard Cohen
Richard Hell
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Leon Wrote:
I love it when people can successfully cross platforms. I can't think of any other writers to do this, but I'm sure there must be some.

Patti Smith
Leonard Cohen
Richard Hell
Syd Griffin


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 Post subject: Re: Jim Carroll Band
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Radcliffe Wrote:
Leon Wrote:
I love it when people can successfully cross platforms. I can't think of any other writers to do this, but I'm sure there must be some.

Patti Smith
Leonard Cohen
Richard Hell
Syd Griffin



I would say that at least Patti Smith and Richard Hell are primarily known for being musicians, and in that case I would say that they're musicians who write moreso than writers that are musicians.

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 Post subject: Re: Jim Carroll Band
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Leon Wrote:
I would say that at least Patti Smith and Richard Hell are primarily known for being musicians, and in that case I would say that they're musicians who write moreso than writers that are musicians.

I didn't realize you were putting unnecessary conditions on your own question.


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Leon Wrote:
Radcliffe Wrote:
Leon Wrote:
I love it when people can successfully cross platforms. I can't think of any other writers to do this, but I'm sure there must be some.

Patti Smith
Leonard Cohen
Richard Hell
Syd Griffin



I would say that at least Patti Smith and Richard Hell are primarily known for being musicians, and in that case I would say that they're musicians who write moreso than writers that are musicians.


Richard Hell probably wrote as much if not more than Carroll. Hell really only has 3 albums spread across 4 decades. That's like saying "I've heard of the Basketball Diaries, thus, Carroll's a writer."

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I tried to find somebody of that sort that I could like that nobody else did - because everybody would adopt his group, and his group would be _it_; someone weird like Captain Beefheart. It's no different now - people trying to outdo ! each other in extremes. There are people who like X, and there are people who say X are wimps; they like Black Flag.


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Not unnecessary, I can think of many musicians who write, but not many writers who rock. I mean even Billy Corgan has a poetry book out now.

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 Post subject: Re: Jim Carroll Band
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Leon Wrote:
Not unnecessary, I can think of many musicians who write, but not many writers who rock. I mean even Billy Corgan has a poetry book out now.


Both Hell and Smith were writer before making music. It's a bad comparison. They compare more favorably to Carroll than Corgan. You've just heard of them as musicians first.

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I tried to find somebody of that sort that I could like that nobody else did - because everybody would adopt his group, and his group would be _it_; someone weird like Captain Beefheart. It's no different now - people trying to outdo ! each other in extremes. There are people who like X, and there are people who say X are wimps; they like Black Flag.


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And Hell has written 2 novels as well as being a published film critic.

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I tried to find somebody of that sort that I could like that nobody else did - because everybody would adopt his group, and his group would be _it_; someone weird like Captain Beefheart. It's no different now - people trying to outdo ! each other in extremes. There are people who like X, and there are people who say X are wimps; they like Black Flag.


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Leon Wrote:
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Leon Wrote:
I love it when people can successfully cross platforms. I can't think of any other writers to do this, but I'm sure there must be some.

Patti Smith
Leonard Cohen
Richard Hell
Syd Griffin



I would say that at least Patti Smith and Richard Hell are primarily known for being musicians, and in that case I would say that they're musicians who write moreso than writers that are musicians.


Richard Hell probably wrote as much if not more than Carroll. Hell really only has 3 albums spread across 4 decades. That's like saying "I've heard of the Basketball Diaries, thus, Carroll's a writer."


I'll be the first to admit that I don't know much about Richard Hell, just that I dig some of his music. I do know that he is primarily thought of as a musician which was all that I meant. I do know that Carroll thought of himself as a poet and writer first, and that his music was him mixing his poetry with music. It's not really like calling Carroll a writer because of the Basketball Diaries, it's because it's what he called himself first and foremost. But I'm no expert on these other people so thanks for the info.

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