sweet jebus this album is good.
how does it KEEP growing on me after all these years?

I'm assuming you're talking about the Frank Black album.

I just recently aquired this and have listened to it once. Initial impressions were that it's pretty good.

The only other ones I have are his S/T and Dog in the Sand which are both solid.

????????? How is this the only Frank Black that you have? I thought we were friends....

Teenager of the Year = Best album of the 90's....

Damn, can't find that Best of the 90's thread that I started on the CMJ board.

Me = gar

I have 3 Frank albums but just recently got Teenager from Pagoda.

I have always been aware of this album but for whatever mystical reason I never got around to picking it up.

<-----------Goes off to listen to it again now.




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i think Teenager of the Year took me a while to get into. It's pretty long and upon first listen pretty strange.

plus the critics of that time were in such a fizzy over the Breeders that they were making fun of this album and explaining that Kim was the real reason the Pixies were so awesome.

I own, love and consistently return to his self-titled yet (ironically and stupidly) haven't purchased any of his subsequent releases. Sounds like TOTY is the next best step.

I have most of his solo stuff through affiliation with Bloor. It rocks, but for some reason it is more stuff that I love to hear on random, rather than listen to whole albums. Don't know why that is.

i only have the first three.

what ones should i get after that?

I bought his first when it came out, and I was pretty disappointed with it. Never really got Teenager until recently...but whoa, what an album.

Dog In The Sand (today)
Black Letter Days (tomrw)
Show Me Your Tears (Wed.)

Pick up the rest next week. And as probably the biggest Frank Black fan on the board, I can say with complete confidence: Cult of Ray is a pretty fucking garbage album (has its high points though])

yeah, Cult of Ray is pretty spotty, but has it's moments.

though i clearly remember hearing it for the fisrt time and the first 10 seconds made me think it was going to be the best album ever.

I can give you a run for the money in those sweepstakes. I think Frank Black just keeps getting better (although he did hit the doldrums with Cult Of Ray and had to fight through it on the first couple of Catholics albums). I mean, I love the Pixies, but I'd still say Teenager Of The Year, Dog In The Sand, Black Letter Days, Show Me Your Tears, and maybe even Pistolero are better albums than anything he put out with the Pixies.

TOTY is so crammed full with great tunes that it's almost overwhelming on first listen. It's one of those albums that you've gotta find a single song to concentrate on and then work outwards from that point. For me, it was the song "Speedy Marie". They way it built up to that extended, poetic coda just sucked me in. And then I found similar greatness throughout the album - every song is filled with tangents and surprises, small touches that hook you in.

I think the commercial failure of TOTY sent FB into the same place as Paul Westerberg, in which the realization that there was no loyalty in their supposed fanbase compelled them to toss aside any considerations of mass acceptance and instead they found an economically feasible way to pursue their own unique muses without compromise (for Westerberg, that would mean recording as a one-man band in his own basement; for FB that would mean assembling a crack band that could record entire albums live-to-2-track within 5 days). Although FB has recently reached a position (thanks to the Pixies reunion) where he can afford to attempt a project with the same massive scope as TOTY, and it's due sometime this year. It's easily my most anticipated album of '05.

well put

I do have Black Letter Days, but it's a burn.

When I typed that, I mentally did the "Radcliffe in 5....4...3...."



Agreed, and I'm glad to have a fan/friend like you to state things more clearly than I can. Frank Black is better than the Pixies. The Foo Fighters are better than Nirvana. And god. And the Bible.

okay, but let's level the field....both former bands scarcely existed 5 years before they were prematurely killed....the Foo Fighters and FB solo have been around 10+

Are the first two FB albums collevtively better than Surfer Rosa/Come On Pilgrim and Doolittle? Are the second and third Foo Fighters records better than Nevermind and In Utero?

Yup.


Nope.

Yes.

I'll elaborate if necessary, but I fully understand that this may be an agree to disagree deal.

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"Jesus is right" = perhaps one of his best solo efforts. I'm not a big fan of the stuff he's done with The Catholics on the past 2-3 albums, and his "reinterpretations" of pixies songs on frank black francis, or whatever it was called, last year w/ 2 pale boys were AWFUL... Still, Teenager is a godsend.

No way...I mean, it's a fairly even matchup, but balls no.


although I like "Colour and the shape", it doesn't match up to either of these...and "There is nothing Left" could be the beginning of the end, as it started a tailspin they haven't righted themselves from yet - espec. with the pretentious "double album" coming up next...