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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:15 pm 
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have about a grand to spend. he has a telecaster copy and a seagull acoustic. hes mostly an R+B type player. what would you buy if you had 1000?


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:31 pm 
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was considering a martin or taylor but really id be limited to a really low end martin and ive never played taylors.


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danefuckinglectro...get a good one, get it nicely set up, pocket $600 or so.

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nah most all second and third-tier guitars he has played and gotten rid of. this is a reasonable choice save for the time when he told me he "fucking hates danelectros"


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picky picky picky...fine.

perhaps an epiphone 335 copy like a sheraton or something

or a semi hollow jazz type guitar, one neck pickup.

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So are you wanting to get him an acoustic or electric?

I mean, you can get an American Strat for under a grand and it'll only appreciate if he takes care of it.

I've never owned a nice acoustic so I can't really help there. I know you certainly could do worse than a Martin.

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You could certainly do worse than an American Strat. Not a bad choice at all.

Taylor's are awesome acoustics but I'm not sure you can get a decent one for less than a grand. I may be wrong though.

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American tele or strat.

The safest choices.

If someone has a problem with either of those guitars they are a fucking idiot.

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nobody has a problem with those guitars, but my dads played a lot of fenders and doesnt really care for a les paul. his favorite guitar model is a tele but he already has a tele copy that he likes, was trying to go for something different


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American tele or strat.

The safest choices.

If someone has a problem with either of those guitars they are a fucking idiot.


I hate strats...but they sound amazing.

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nobody has a problem with those guitars, but my dads played a lot of fenders and doesnt really care for a les paul. his favorite guitar model is a tele but he already has a tele copy that he likes, was trying to go for something different


Get him a real tele.

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thats a good choice, hed probably appreciate that more than anything


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 Post subject: Re: trying to find a guitar for my dad
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Thought 1: So if he likes teles but has a good copy of a solid body with standard pickups (the usual 2 single coils), then maybe switch it up on him and get a japanese Fender thinline tele. The build quality is superb, and the hollow body really opens the voice up nicely for jazz / r&b stuff.

Thought 2: Try to find a G&L Asat. Leo's company post-fender, with wierd P90-ish pickups in it. They play great, they sound a little thicker and smokier than standard tele pickups, and they hold value well. Might have to go used.

Thought 3: My favorite guitar (that I own anyway) is a 97 Tele Deluxe Plus, the 3-pickup model. If he's a tele guy, this may be his dream guitar. So it comes stock with a strat-style switch and a mini-toggle between the knobs, and the mini toggle puts the back pickup in/out of phase. Zzzz. The problem is that Tele guys want Tele switching, myself included, and with a 5-way strat switch you can't get the back and neck pickups together like you can on a standard tele, and that's an important sound. So I swapped for a 3-way tele switch, then wired the middle pickup straight to the mini toggle to turn it off and on. That's a long way of saying "it's a 3 pickup tele that can sound and function just like a 2 pickup tele, until you want somethin' extra." I think they go used for like $800ish on ebay and I'd be glad to help you look if you go that route. They stopped making these in like 98 or 99 I think.

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This isn't mine but it looks just like it:

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I feel like Kyle should get into the guitar construction business.

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He likes Fenders, but already has a Strat and a Tele.
Personally, I am not a fan of the Fender humbuckers, but for something different that he might dig, this one is available for $800 HERE
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I am not a fan of the Fender humbuckers



Pretty much nobody is, and with good reason. I suspect he might like a thinline with singles...?

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I feel like Kyle should get into the guitar construction business.


I once thought about trying to work for Fender out of business school. They weren't hiring.

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
PopTodd Wrote:
I am not a fan of the Fender humbuckers



Pretty much nobody is, and with good reason. I suspect he might like a thinline with singles...?


I was thinking that, too. But, trying to get something a little bit more different than what he already had. But, yeah; the Thinline Teles with single-coil pickups are really great-sounding guitars.

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Especially if you drop $200 more and put some Bill Lawrences or Fender Custom Shop Broadcaster Reissues in it. Oh fuck me those sound good. I have a Broad in the backslot of the Special up there and it is the real deal. Palm mute with a little bit of tight slapback delay and just a touch of reverb and it's On like Michelle Kwan.

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Gibson es 125 on ebay. Single p 90. The ultimate single coil pickup. I got a 1949 es 125 on ebay for 600.

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
Kingfish Wrote:
I feel like Kyle should get into the guitar construction business.


I once thought about trying to work for Fender out of business school. They weren't hiring.



Move to Nashville and become a luthier to all those country musicians.


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I'm not giving up this gig anytime soon. I fucking love it here. That would be pretty damned awesome though.

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1966 ES 125 D, buy it now of 759!

http://cgi.ebay.com/1966-Gibson-es-125- ... 1e5d2379b5

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so i talked to him and asked him what kind of telecaster i should buy (for myself) and he said if he pretty much decided an authentic strat would be his ideal electric guitar.

so im looking at these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-FSR-American ... 4150fa064c

http://cgi.ebay.com/FENDER-STRATOCASTER ... 2a08a5cf06

i know they are new strats and ideally i could find a great vintage model but its hard to know what to buy.

also found some martin and taylor model acoustics for reasonable price - anyone have enough experience with the lower end models. id LOVE to find an HD-28 but thats a little out of my price range, anyone play the d-18 or d-16 or have any tidbits of info regarding martins?

also some very nice taylor acoustics

http://cgi.ebay.com/Taylor-Acoustic-Gui ... 20b246f54c

having never played taylors im not sure if its worth trying to grab a used GA/GC over a martin.

anyway these are my thoughts, its a gift so extravagance may win out over practicality.


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