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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:28 am 
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I remember us taking this test on the previous board, but we probably have many new members on Obner who didn't get a chance to take part in the test last time. Basically, all you do is click "Take the test" to respond to the propositions and then post your results after you finish.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/


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As with most tests such as this, I found problems with some of the questions.

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If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations.


I was laughing so hard after reading this question I couldn't continue.


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Billzebub Wrote:
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If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations.


I was laughing so hard after reading this question I couldn't continue.


From the FAQ:

Your proposition on globalisation suggests that corporations and humanity can't both benefit.

This one sometimes ruffles feathers on right wings. What the proposition actually suggests is that humanity should be the priority.

Critics argue that there's no conflict of interest. Transnational corporations naturally and unfailingly serve humanity by serving themselves. In enriching business , globalisation will subsequently benefit humanity. Prioritising humanity would only limit the ability of the corporations to ultimately do greater good. So advocates of this trickle down approach should simply click 'strongly disagree' We don't see the problem.

For respondents who report that they strongly agreed with the proposition, names like Bhopal and Enron are often mentioned. Such opponents of the trickle down theory might do well to explore it in more depth through the works of one of its principal architects, Milton Friedman. www.ideachannel.com/Friedman.htm On the other hand, the Friedman faithful could benefit from a visit to www.corpwatch.org.


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... yyyup, rightabout where I figured.

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I think that test was biased towards negative end of the spectrum due to the wording in some of those questions.


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splates Wrote:
I think that test was biased towards negative end of the spectrum due to the wording in some of those questions.


Check the FAQ if you have any specific concerns about the test. However, just so you know, they specifically say on the site that most of the questions are slanted.

If you are still not satisfied, you are always welcome to email the authors of the site. They read every email they receive.


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Borg166 Wrote:
splates Wrote:
I think that test was biased towards negative end of the spectrum due to the wording in some of those questions.


Check the FAQ if you have any specific concerns about the test. However, just so you know, they specifically say on the site that most of the questions are slanted.

If you are still not satisfied, you are always welcome to email the authors of the site. They read every email they receive.


Oh I don't really care that much it's just an internet survey, all i'm saying is that as a 'left-winger' even I say that test has a leftwards slant. I see myself as a moderate, yet the way the questions were worded makes me look like an extremist.


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Oh I don't really care that much it's just an internet survey, all i'm saying is that as a 'left-winger' even I say that test has a leftwards slant. I see myself as a moderate, yet the way the questions were worded makes me look like an extremist.


I understand. Politics is extremely subjective and I don't think that any one survey could possibly satisfy everyone because each individual is incredibly complex there is always the question of what the universal standards of politics are. However, I do think this test is much more realistic than many other political tests, including the famous World's Smallest Political Quiz, which seems to exclusively reflect the narrow US political system. Maybe that works for America, but I like the PC system because it seems to bring in thought from all over the globe.

I'll also point out that the PC has been criticized by some people because many believe it is slanted towards Libertarian thought and the WSPQ has been accused of being a blatant Libertarian Party recruiting tool.


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Borg166 Wrote:
Billzebub Wrote:
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If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations.


I was laughing so hard after reading this question I couldn't continue.


From the FAQ:

Your proposition on globalisation suggests that corporations and humanity can't both benefit.

This one sometimes ruffles feathers on right wings. What the proposition actually suggests is that humanity should be the priority.

Critics argue that there's no conflict of interest. Transnational corporations naturally and unfailingly serve humanity by serving themselves. In enriching business , globalisation will subsequently benefit humanity. Prioritising humanity would only limit the ability of the corporations to ultimately do greater good. So advocates of this trickle down approach should simply click 'strongly disagree' We don't see the problem.

For respondents who report that they strongly agreed with the proposition, names like Bhopal and Enron are often mentioned. Such opponents of the trickle down theory might do well to explore it in more depth through the works of one of its principal architects, Milton Friedman. www.ideachannel.com/Friedman.htm On the other hand, the Friedman faithful could benefit from a visit to www.corpwatch.org.


I didn't even get to that point, I was laughing at how loaded and skewed was this question. I'm sure the commies in the Labor Relations and Poly-Sci departments loved whatever half-wit through this together, but had they shopped this to the Expos cats in the English Dept, or to the Logic/Reasoning cats in the Philosophy Dept, those folks would have no choice but to question the sanity of their college's Board of Admissions.

I mean, really. What the hell is "trans-national"? This is a stupid grammatical construct. "Trans-border", sure. "International", sure. "Trans-national" is retarded.

"Trans" signifies "across". Literally, "Trans-national" means companies conducting business across countries, such as a Canadian company doing business in Mexico, but not in the United States. It's just plain stupid.

This survey was written by someone who exhibits not much more than a third grade education.


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It's a nice idea, but yes, even lefties like m'self immediately notice the slant it has. There's no way to come out as a upper-right corner person unless you're a pretty damn hardcore right-winger... could've been much better executed, but they might not've liked the results as much.

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I didn't even get to that point, I was laughing at how loaded and skewed was this question. I'm sure the commies in the Labor Relations and Poly-Sci departments loved whatever half-wit through this together, but had they shopped this to the Expos cats in the English Dept, or to the Logic/Reasoning cats in the Philosophy Dept, those folks would have no choice but to question the sanity of their college's Board of Admissions.

I mean, really. What the hell is "trans-national"? This is a stupid grammatical construct. "Trans-border", sure. "International", sure. "Trans-national" is retarded.

"Trans" signifies "across". Literally, "Trans-national" means companies conducting business across countries, such as a Canadian company doing business in Mexico, but not in the United States. It's just plain stupid.

This survey was written by someone who exhibits not much more than a third grade education.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnational_corporation
You've never heard of multinational/transnational corporations before?

Also, the authors have university backgrounds so it's not just a bunch of kids throwing this together.


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You shouldn't need the FAQ to make the questions themselves non-insulting. Most of them suggest that if you pick a particular answer you are a heartless dickhead.


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You shouldn't need the FAQ to make the questions themselves non-insulting. Most of them suggest that if you pick a particular answer you are a heartless dickhead.


That's why Hitler's at the top and Gandhi's at the bottom. If you're a "heartless bastard," your score will reflect that.


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You shouldn't need the FAQ to make the questions themselves non-insulting. Most of them suggest that if you pick a particular answer you are a heartless dickhead.



Bingo. I'm allll for some sort of tool like that to shed light on these sorts of issues, but if it's going to get more than a few seconds' attention, it should be neutral. It isn't.

Slant like that makes it just a pat on the back for lefties (like me).

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Borg166 Wrote:

Also, the authors have university backgrounds so it's not just a bunch of kids throwing this together.


Well, I guess the world needs bad universities too, if only to make more clear the value of a good one.


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