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 Post subject: Erykah Badu & Wayne Coyne NOT Best "Fwends" Forever Anymore
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:26 pm 
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http://consequenceofsound.net/2012/06/erykah-badu-doesnt-like-the-flaming-lips-video-for-the-first-time-i-ever-saw-your-face/

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Erykah says Coyne “disrespected me by releasing pics and rough vid on the internet without my approval. That is equivalent to putting out a security camera’s images of me changing in the fitting room. I never would have approved that tasteless, meaningless, shock motivated video.”

She concludes, “As a human I am disgusted with your what appears to be desperation and poor execution. And disregard for others . As a director I am unimpressed . As a sociologist I understand your type. As your fellow artist I am uninspired. As a woman I feel violated and underestimated.”

You can read the full letter below. It’s worth noting that the video has since been taken offline.

@waynecoyne then… perhaps, next time u get an occasion to work with an artist who respects your mind/art, you should send at least a ROUGh version of the video u PLAN to release b4 u manipulate or compromise the artist’s brand by desperately releasing a poor excuse for shock and nudity that sends a convoluted message that passes as art( to some).
Even with Window Seat there was a method and thought process involved. I have not one need for publicity . I just love artistic dialogue . And just because an image is shocking does not make it art.
You obviously have a misconception of who I am artistically. I don’t mind that but…
By the way you are an ass.
Yu did everything wrong from the on set .
First:
You showed me a concept of beautiful tasteful imagery( by way of vid text messages) .
I trusted that. I was mistaken.
Then u release an unedited, unapproved version within the next few days.
That all spells 1 thing ,
Self Serving .
When asked what the concept
meant after u explained it , u replied ,”it doesn’t mean anything , I just want to make a great video that everyone is going to watch. ”
I understood , because as an artist we all desire that. But we don’t all do it at another artist’s expense .
I attempted to resolve this respectfully by having conversations with u after the release but that too proved to be a poor excuse for art.
From jump,
You begged me to sit in a tub of that other shit and I said naw. I refused to sit in any liquid that was not water. But Out of RESPECT for you and the artist you ‘appear’ to be, I Didn’t wanna kill your concept , wanted u to at least get it out of your head . After all, u spent your dough on studio , trip to Dallas etc.. Sooo, I invited Nayrok , my lil sis and artist, who is much more liberal ,to be subject of those other disturbing (to me ) scenes . I told u from jump that I believed your concept to be disturbing. But would give your edit a chance.
You then said u would take my shots ( in clear water/ fully covered parts -seemed harmless enough) and Nayrok’s part ( which I was not present for but saw the photos and a sample scene of cornstarch dripping ) and edit them together along with cosmic, green screen images ( which no one saw) then would show me the edit. .
Instead, U disrespected me by releasing pics and rough vid on the internet without my approval. (Contract breech )
That is equivalent to putting out a security camera’s images of me changing in the fitting room.
I never would have approved that tasteless, meaningless, shock motivated video .
Our art is a reflection of who we are . I have no connection to those images shot in their raw version. I was interested in seeing an amazing edit that would perhaps change or alter my thoughts . Never happened .
You also did the same thing with the song itself which displays crappy “rough “vocals by me . I let it go , perhaps iiiii was missing something, I thought.
I Should have followed my first mind back in studio when recording the vocals “your way”.
( Red flag.) It was uncomfortable.
For that I am at fault .
Consequently, brother, As a human I am disgusted with your what appears to be desperation and poor execution. And disregard for others . As a director I am unimpressed . As a sociologist I understand your type. As your fellow artist I am uninspired. As a woman I feel violated and underestimated.
Hope it works out for ya ,Wayne.
Really i could give a shit less.
Still love your live show tho.
And , you’re welcomed.
Lesson learned .
By the way I have guested in very few videos. But I have always been given the opportunity to see the edit and contribute to it when my roll is substantial. Not this time .
I guess u feel it better to apologize than ask for permission and be refused . Hey, Love u man, but your ways are not very nice .
O, And on behalf of all the artists u have manipulated or plan to manipulate, find another way .
These things have been said out of necessity.
And if you don’t like it
you can KiSS MY Glittery ASS .
O and Nayrok told me to tell u to kiss her ass too .
Almost forgot.
Peace

Ms. Badu

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 Post subject: Re: Erykah Badu & Wayne Coyne NOT Best "Fwends" Forever Anymore
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:46 pm 
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FT Wrote:
http://consequenceofsound.net/2012/06/erykah-badu-doesnt-like-the-flaming-lips-video-for-the-first-time-i-ever-saw-your-face/

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Erykah says Coyne “disrespected me by releasing pics and rough vid on the internet without my approval. That is equivalent to putting out a security camera’s images of me changing in the fitting room. I never would have approved that tasteless, meaningless, shock motivated video.”

She concludes, “As a human I am disgusted with your what appears to be desperation and poor execution. And disregard for others . As a director I am unimpressed . As a sociologist I understand your type. As your fellow artist I am uninspired. As a woman I feel violated and underestimated.”

It’s worth noting that the video has since been taken offline.


it's still up: http://vimeo.com/43298255

It's relatively tame if you've seen Christmas on Mars


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 Post subject: Re: Erykah Badu & Wayne Coyne NOT Best "Fwends" Forever Anymore
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:36 pm 
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jesus, that letter was like a Monty post.

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 Post subject: Re: Erykah Badu & Wayne Coyne NOT Best "Fwends" Forever Anymore
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:40 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Erykah Badu & Wayne Coyne NOT Best "Fwends" Forever Anymore
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:11 pm 
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That entire thing can be summed up with:

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In hindsight, slapping my ass with glitter was pretty embarrassing.

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 Post subject: Re: Erykah Badu & Wayne Coyne NOT Best "Fwends" Forever Anymore
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:34 pm 
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I couldn't read it all the way through, and I can (i think) understand Monty posts.

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 Post subject: Re: Erykah Badu & Wayne Coyne NOT Best "Fwends" Forever Anymore
PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:44 am 
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it doesnt help that the song is terrible


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 Post subject: Re: Erykah Badu & Wayne Coyne NOT Best "Fwends" Forever Anymore
PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:53 am 
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If this results in the Lips covering OutKast, I'll be happy.


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 Post subject: Re: Erykah Badu & Wayne Coyne NOT Best "Fwends" Forever Anymore
PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:19 pm 
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jack off to the video here

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 Post subject: Re: Erykah Badu & Wayne Coyne NOT Best "Fwends" Forever Anymore
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The video link that was erroneously posted on Pitchfork by the Flaming Lips of the Music Video 'The First Time I Ever Saw Your Face', which features Erykah Badu, is unedited and unapproved.. Sorry!! We, the Flaming Lips, accept full responsibility for prematurely having Pitchfork post it. It has outraged and upset a segment of fans and we apologize if we offended any viewers!!! This is a Flaming Lips video which features Erykah Badu and her sister Nayrok and is not meant to be considered an Erykah Badu or Nayrok statement, creation, or approved version

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 Post subject: Re: Erykah Badu & Wayne Coyne NOT Best "Fwends" Forever Anymore
PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:12 pm 
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Potentially staged conflict?

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Potentially staged conflict?


exactly what i thought

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 Post subject: Re: Erykah Badu & Wayne Coyne NOT Best "Fwends" Forever Anymore
PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:29 am 
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Flying Rabbit Wrote:
That entire thing can be summed up with:

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In hindsight, slapping my ass with glitter was pretty embarrassing.



Weird, that was my favorite part.


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 Post subject: Re: Erykah Badu & Wayne Coyne NOT Best "Fwends" Forever Anymore
PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:13 pm 
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catswilleatyou Wrote:
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The video link that was erroneously posted on Pitchfork by the Flaming Lips of the Music Video 'The First Time I Ever Saw Your Face', which features Erykah Badu, is unedited and unapproved.. Sorry!! We, the Flaming Lips, accept full responsibility for prematurely having Pitchfork post it. It has outraged and upset a segment of fans and we apologize if we offended any viewers!!! This is a Flaming Lips video which features Erykah Badu and her sister Nayrok and is not meant to be considered an Erykah Badu or Nayrok statement, creation, or approved version


this is entirely believable simply because it's all green screen with not a single thing added. Wayne probably wanted to leave all the parts they hated, but seems like he meant to add some dental surgery to the pussy lips.

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