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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:00 pm 
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I won't say that he made a fan out of me. He didn't.
His recorded material still leaves me totally flat.

But I'll be damned if Bruno can't bring it, live.

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 Post subject: Re: Bruno Mars
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As far as pop stars go, I dig him. I appreciate the showmanship.

That said, the thrown in Chili Peppers performance was just sad.


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As far as pop stars go, I dig him. I appreciate the showmanship.

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 Post subject: Re: Bruno Mars
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There's no doubt that this guy can deliver the goods. And he is capable of writing / arranging a superbly crafted and exciting pop song (I dunno how much of that is him, and how much is a partnership or team).

I think that here are two or three tracks on that Unorthodox Jukebox album that are really, really good. But, there are also some real stinkers with horrible lyrics and with forced production tricks that try too hard to make the song something it isn't.

I'd love to see the guy do more all-natural tracks like "If I Knew", personally. That just seems like where he's coming from, without all the forced, overt sexuality / badass / gangsta shit tacked on.

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He's a good fucking drummer. Shit.

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Rick Derris Wrote:
As far as pop stars go, I dig him. I appreciate the showmanship.

That said, the thrown in Chili Peppers performance was just sad.


This, all the way.

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As far as pop stars go, I dig him. I appreciate the showmanship.


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I just avoided the halftime show altogether. Nothing against Bruno Mars but I hate RHCP.

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 Post subject: Re: Bruno Mars
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You guys saw that RHCP supposedly didn't even plug in their guitars right?

http://www.vulture.com/2014/02/flea-pla ... -bowl.html


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Chili Peppers the first band to have a Super Bowl appearance actually negatively effect their career?


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 Post subject: Re: Bruno Mars
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Hard for me to believe that, at one point, when I was about 20-21, they were my favorite band in the world.

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 Post subject: Re: Bruno Mars
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(unplugged)

There was a time when they were the kind of band who would NEVER do this.

Now they are totally the kind of band who would do this.

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And the guitarist who is not John Frusciante was wildly flailing about too. Embarassing.


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Yeah when did Frusciante leave?

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 Post subject: Re: Bruno Mars
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There was a time when they were the kind of band who would NEVER do this.

Now they are totally the kind of band who would do this.


I can't recall such a time.


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 Post subject: Re: Bruno Mars
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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
Yeah when did Frusciante leave?


Yea, not sure when.

For what its worth, Flea did respond to the criticism here: http://www.stereogum.com/1655031/red-ho ... bowl/news/

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Dear everybody,

When we were asked by the NFL and Bruno to play our song Give It Away at the Super Bowl, it was made clear to us that the vocals would be live, but the bass, drums, and guitar would be pre-recorded. I understand the NFL’s stance on this, given they only have a few minutes to set up the stage, there a zillion things that could go wrong and ruin the sound for the folks watching in the stadium and the t.v. viewers. There was not any room for argument on this, the NFL does not want to risk their show being botched by bad sound, period.

The Red Hot Chili Peppers stance on any sort of miming has been that we will absolutely not do it. The last time we did it (or tried to) was in the late 80′s, we were thrown off of ’The Top Of the Pops’ television program in the U.K. during rehearsals because we refused to mime properly, I played bass with my shoe, John played guitar atop Anthony’s shoulders, and we basically had a wrestling match onstage, making a mockery of the idea that it was a real live performance.

We mimed on one or two weird MTV shows before that and it always was a drag. We take our music playing seriously, it is a sacred thing for us, and anyone who has ever seen us in concert (like the night before the Super Bowl at the Barclays Center), knows that we play from our heart, we improvise spontaneously, take musical risks, and sweat blood at every show. We have been on the road for 31 years doing it.

So, when this Super Bowl gig concept came up, there was a lot of confusion amongst us as whether or not we should do it, but we eventually decided, it was a surreal-like, once in a life time crazy thing to do and we would just have fun and do it. We had given this a lot of thought before agreeing to do it, and besides many a long conversation amongst ourselves, I spoke with many musician friends for whom I have the utmost respect, and they all said they would do it if asked, that it was a wild trippy thing to do, what the hell. Plus, we the RHCP all love football too and that played a big part in our decision. We decided that, with Anthony singing live, that we could still bring the spirit and freedom of what we do into the performance, and of course we played every note in the recording specially for the gig. I met and spoke with Bruno, who was a beautiful dude, a real talented musician, and we worked out something that seemed like it would be fun.

We recorded a track for the day, just banged one out from our hearts that was very like in spirit to the versions we have been playing live the last few years with our beloved Josh on guitar.

For the actual performance, Josh, Chad, and I were playing along with the pre recorded track so there was no need to plug in our guitars, so we did not. Could we have plugged them in and avoided bumming people out who have expressed disappointment that the instrumental track was pre recorded? Of course easily we could have and this would be a non-issue. We thought it better to not pretend. It seemed like the realest thing to do in the circumstance. It was like making a music video in front of a gazillion people, except with live vocals, and only one chance to rock it. Our only thought was to bring the spirit of who we are to the people.

I am grateful to the NFL for having us. And I am grateful to Bruno, who is a super talented young man for inviting us to be a part of his gig. I would do it all the same way again.

We, as a band, aspire to grow as musicians and songwriters, and to continue to play our guts out live onstage for anyone who wants to get their brains blown out.

Sincerely,

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 Post subject: Re: Bruno Mars
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Well, that makes sense I guess. Still a little surprised they agreed to do it at all, though.

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 Post subject: Re: Bruno Mars
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I'd rather have real than fake, I'd rather be real than fake, and if music is so sacred, treat it like it is.

You do something like this, you open yourself up to criticism.

Also, don't try and explain it away. You wanted to jump around on T.V. during the superbowl. The explanation feels like a half assed apology. Just tell people to piss up a rope and stop pretending that your explanation means that you regained an integrity that you clearly didn't have in the first place.

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 Post subject: Re: Bruno Mars
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So does Flea's explanation mean the performances by the Rolling Stones, Bruce Springsteen, Prince, etc., etc. from the last several years have also all been pre-recorded?

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 Post subject: Re: Bruno Mars
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So does Flea's explanation mean the performances by the Rolling Stones, Bruce Springsteen, Prince, etc., etc. from the last several years have also all been pre-recorded?


I have no idea, but they were headliners and RHCP showed up for half of a song.

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 Post subject: Re: Bruno Mars
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Bruno Mars is racially ambiguous, non-threatening and he has lovely hair and expresses no opinions. So yes, a star.

I'm sure he works hard and does as he's told.


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and he plays instruments, which people who complain about pop music seem to value deeply.

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
Well, that makes sense I guess. Still a little surprised they agreed to do it at all, though.


I think he explained that part pretty well though, no? Its a once in a life time thing, etc.

I'm not sure why it even needed to be addressed: I assume that all Super Bowl or awards show-type performances are to some degree pre recorded mainly for the reasons that Flea mentioned: logistics and sound. Its a TV show, not a concert. Everybody knows the Chili Peppers (and for that matter, Bruno Mars) can play their instruments, so why make it sound like shit? Because I think we can all agree that it would sound like shit.

And I think Bruno Mars is mega-talented even if his music is not my thing. I mostly always watch the Grammy's and his performances the best 2 or 3 years have reminded me of the "good" side of pop music. Do your thing, dude.

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this SNL skit was my first entry point into the bruno mars phenomenon, and i can't not think of it every time i see or read anything about bruno mars

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