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From today's NYTimes.

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arents would certainly deny it, but Canadian researchers have made a startling assertion: parents take better care of pretty children than they do ugly ones.

Researchers at the University of Alberta carefully observed how parents treated their children during trips to the supermarket. They found that physical attractiveness made a big difference.

The researchers noted if the parents belted their youngsters into the grocery cart seat, how often the parents' attention lapsed and the number of times the children were allowed to engage in potentially dangerous activities like standing up in the shopping cart. They also rated each child's physical attractiveness on a 10-point scale.

The findings, not yet published, were presented at the Warren E. Kalbach Population Conference in Edmonton, Alberta.

When it came to buckling up, pretty and ugly children were treated in starkly different ways, with seat belt use increasing in direct proportion to attractiveness. When a woman was in charge, 4 percent of the homeliest children were strapped in compared with 13.3 percent of the most attractive children. The difference was even more acute when fathers led the shopping expedition - in those cases, none of the least attractive children were secured with seat belts, while 12.5 percent of the prettiest children were.

Homely children were also more often out of sight of their parents, and they were more often allowed to wander more than 10 feet away.

Age - of parent and child - also played a role. Younger adults were more likely to buckle their children into the seat, and younger children were more often buckled in. Older adults, in contrast, were inclined to let children wander out of sight and more likely to allow them to engage in physically dangerous activities.

Although the researchers were unsure why, good-looking boys were usually kept in closer proximity to the adults taking care of them than were pretty girls. The researchers speculated that girls might be considered more competent and better able to act independently than boys of the same age. The researchers made more than 400 observations of child-parent interactions in 14 supermarkets.

Dr. W. Andrew Harrell, executive director of the Population Research Laboratory at the University of Alberta and the leader of the research team, sees an evolutionary reason for the findings: pretty children, he says, represent the best genetic legacy, and therefore they get more care.

Not all experts agree. Dr. Frans de Waal, a professor of psychology at Emory University, said he was skeptical.

"The question," he said, "is whether ugly people have fewer offspring than handsome people. I doubt it very much. If the number of offspring are the same for these two categories, there's absolutely no evolutionary reason for parents to invest less in ugly kids."

Dr. Robert Sternberg, professor of psychology and education at Yale, said he saw problems in Dr. Harrell's method and conclusions, for example, not considering socioeconomic status.

"Wealthier parents can feed, clothe and take care of their children better due to greater resources," Dr. Sternberg said, possibly making them more attractive. "The link to evolutionary theory is speculative."

But Dr. Harrell said the importance of physical attractiveness "cuts across social class, income and education."

"Like lots of animals, we tend to parcel out our resources on the basis of value," he said. "Maybe we can't always articulate that, but in fact we do it. There are a lot of things that make a person more valuable, and physical attractiveness may be one of them."
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I heard about this on Rush this morning. First time I have ever laughed at anything he said. He recommended that Hillary Clinton "should make this her new signature issue, because she must know about it" AND that the Dems should propose "Special Rights for the new underclass of UGLO-Americans"

I don't agree with anything that dude says, but that's pretty classic.

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so that's what the problem was.


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great so now i'm supposed to think that i was ugly and eglected as a child instead of just neglected?

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i'm glad i wasn't a canadian child.


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hahahahaha, this made me crack up. thanks. i needed this. :D

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Why is daddy grabbing her butt? To me, that doesn't really seem like neglect.


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Is that a scene from that awful movie 'Tremors'???

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Is that a scene from that awful movie 'Tremors'???


I think it is. (involuntary shudder)

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That Is a scene from that awesome movie 'Tremors'!!!

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
TinyE Wrote:
Is that a scene from that awful movie 'Tremors'???


I think it is. (involuntary shudder)


Wait a cotton-pickin minute here. What about Tremors is awful?

* Awaits Newman's inevitable comment upon my taste*

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I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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Senator Dis Soff LooGAR Wrote:
Wait a cotton-pickin minute here. What about Tremors is awful?


Aside from the plot and acting, not a ton, really. Very Sunday-watchable.

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
Senator Dis Soff LooGAR Wrote:
Wait a cotton-pickin minute here. What about Tremors is awful?


Aside from the plot and acting, not a ton, really. Very Sunday-watchable.


Yeah, in the late 90s TBS tried to turn this into a Roadhouse/Next of Kin/Point Break/ Come home high as fuck and get sucked into movie. I concur with it. from that perspective.

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harry Wrote:
I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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First off, the conclusions are a pretty big leap at the very least. There's lots more to consider here, as Dr. Sternberg started to point out.

Secondly, is no one appalled at the total lack of seatbelt use? The highest percentage was just 13.3%. That's totally inexcusable.

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First off, the conclusions are bullshit. But interesting bullshit.

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People who kill attractive people are more likely to get the death penalty. As are people who kill white people.


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TinyE Wrote:
Is that a scene from that awful movie 'Tremors'???


careful there, it might be from Tremors 7

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Roadhouse and Tremors are two of my dad's favorite B-movies ever.


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Senator Dis Soff LooGAR Wrote:
Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
TinyE Wrote:
Is that a scene from that awful movie 'Tremors'???


I think it is. (involuntary shudder)


Wait a cotton-pickin minute here. What about Tremors is awful?

* Awaits Newman's inevitable comment upon my taste*


There's something I agree with you on.
The first one is great. The sequels suck.

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shiv Wrote:
Senator Dis Soff LooGAR Wrote:

Wait a cotton-pickin minute here. What about Tremors is awful?

* Awaits Newman's inevitable comment upon my taste*


There's something I agree with you on.
The first one is great. The sequels suck.


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This made me laugh:

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shiv Wrote:
Senator Dis Soff LooGAR Wrote:
Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
TinyE Wrote:
Is that a scene from that awful movie 'Tremors'???


I think it is. (involuntary shudder)


Wait a cotton-pickin minute here. What about Tremors is awful?

* Awaits Newman's inevitable comment upon my taste*


There's something I agree with you on.
The first one is great. The sequels suck.


Great as in GAR! As in great.


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