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 Post subject: Is "Oh Sister" Dylan's worst song?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:54 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:12 pm 
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that's one of my least favorites (of his great) albums, but i don't have a problem with that song.

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I fucking hate "Joey"

"oh sister" is just bad.

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I too nominate "joey". i don't know half of his catalogue, but i seriously can't think of how any of his congs could be worse. Unless he re-hired the Grateful Dead to help butcher them again.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:18 pm 
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I've always thought that Desire was one of Dylan's biggest turds. I used to love Hurricane but that kind of got ruined for me due to overplay. After that song, I thought the album was really disappointing by his standards. Maybe because he shares writing credits and I just don't like that. In fact One more cup of coffee is really the only song I still listen to on that album. And it' s one of two that he wrote alone on that album. So in my opinion it is defintely near the bottom, but I generally stay away from Desire. I like the Bootleg 1975 Rolling Thunder Review version of Sara come to think of it, which is hte other song he wrote alone. I know there is a version of Oh Sister on that album too, but I can' t recall it right now. I'm gonna listen to that when I get home to see if it is in fact one of his worse.

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i never understood the "joey" hate

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Even though I hope I never have to listen to anything off Desire again, I doubt any Dylan song can be quite as bad as that long one from Out Of Time where he makes the lyrics up as he goes (at least, I HOPE that's what he was doing, 'cuz if he actually wrote that shit down he needs some new drugs STAT).


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oldbulee Wrote:
I've always thought that Desire was one of Dylan's biggest turds. I used to love Hurricane but that kind of got ruined for me due to overplay. After that song, I thought the album was really disappointing by his standards. Maybe because he shares writing credits and I just don't like that. In fact One more cup of coffee is really the only song I still listen to on that album. And it' s one of two that he wrote alone on that album. So in my opinion it is defintely near the bottom, but I generally stay away from Desire. I like the Bootleg 1975 Rolling Thunder Review version of Sara come to think of it, which is hte other song he wrote alone. I know there is a version of Oh Sister on that album too, but I can' t recall it right now. I'm gonna listen to that when I get home to see if it is in fact one of his worse.


This is the version that inspired the thred. Came up on itunes, but I have hated since I first bought Live at Budokan.

I am one of few who like "Sara" as well.

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harry Wrote:
I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:21 pm 
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you know, that one song with the chick scatting (as in Torme, not pooping) on New Morning pisses me off royally, too.

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Not by a long shot. Not a fave, certainly, but it's not even the worst on that album, and it's a really good album.

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Not by a long shot. Not a fave, certainly, but it's not even the worst on that album, and it's a really good album.


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One of his worst, I would say. I'm a bit biased though, in that I don't think much of Desire overall.

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Radcliffe Wrote:
Even though I hope I never have to listen to anything off Desire again, I doubt any Dylan song can be quite as bad as that long one from Out Of Time where he makes the lyrics up as he goes (at least, I HOPE that's what he was doing, 'cuz if he actually wrote that shit down he needs some new drugs STAT).


good call. Am, I the only Dylan fan that never got what was so fucking great about Time Out of Mind? I dug Love and Theft but man...who knows?

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Yail Bloor Wrote:
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Even though I hope I never have to listen to anything off Desire again, I doubt any Dylan song can be quite as bad as that long one from Out Of Time where he makes the lyrics up as he goes (at least, I HOPE that's what he was doing, 'cuz if he actually wrote that shit down he needs some new drugs STAT).


good call. Am, I the only Dylan fan that never got what was so fucking great about Time Out of Mind? I dug Love and Theft but man...who knows?


I'm not a huge fan of either. I don't like his new voice.

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harry Wrote:
I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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I love Time Out of Mind, but that song sucks. Time Out of Mind is a little uneven, but some seriously good stuff on it too. Thank you IPod.

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Yeh. Time Out Of Mind. That's what I meant. Weren't nowhere near as good as Blind on Blind.


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Senator Marmie LooGAR Wrote:
Yail Bloor Wrote:
Radcliffe Wrote:
Even though I hope I never have to listen to anything off Desire again, I doubt any Dylan song can be quite as bad as that long one from Out Of Time where he makes the lyrics up as he goes (at least, I HOPE that's what he was doing, 'cuz if he actually wrote that shit down he needs some new drugs STAT).


good call. Am, I the only Dylan fan that never got what was so fucking great about Time Out of Mind? I dug Love and Theft but man...who knows?


I'm not a huge fan of either. I don't like his new voice.


I'm meh on the new voice. I kinda respect it because it takes alot of courage to completely blow out you voice and still make it work ( at least somewhat). However it can be painful at times, and never packs the punches his old pipes had.


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I'm thinking that as long as Saved and Knocked Out Loaded exist for anyone to grab any random POS song from either of those POS albums, Oh Sister is really safe from being called his worst song.


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I definitely don't think Oh Sister is his worst. I'll have to do a little thinking and researching to find my least-favorite but I know that's not it.

I really like Time Out of Mind, pretty much all of it. Don't pull it out much any more but listened to it a lot when it came out. I still don't think it should have beat out OK Computer in the Grammys that year but what else do you expect from the Grammys?

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