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Oh, the humanity! Scathing. :twisted:

Bush, The Spoiled Man-Child

What causes the fall of empires? Why, stubborn leaders who speak like toddlers and never admit mistakes

By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist

Friday, June 3, 2005

Know what real men do? They admit their mistakes. Know what real people do in times of great stress and strife and economic downturn? They seek help, understand they don't know all the answers, realize they might not've been asking the right questions in the first place.
Know what great leaders, great nations do at times of war and fracture and massive bludgeoning debt? All of the above, all the time, with great intelligence and humility and grace and awareness and shared humanity. Or they die.

But not BushCo. This is the hilarious thing. This is the appalling thing, still. How can this man remain so blindly, staggeringly resolute? How can he be so appallingly ignorant of fact, of truth, of evidence, of deep thought? In short, what the hell is wrong with George W. Bush?

Here it is, another bumbling, barely articulate press conference ( http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f ... 434D96.DTL ) by Dubya, one of few he ever gives because he clearly hates the things and is deeply troubled by them, hates reporters who ask complicated questions and hates people who dare doubt his simple mindset, his effectiveness, his policies, his lopsided myopic one-way black/white good/evil worldview.

Bush hates press conferences because can't speak extemporaneously and can't form a complete sentence without mashing up the language like a five-year-old and can't express a complex idea to save his life and somewhere deep down, he knows it, and he knows we know it, and it makes him mumble and stutter and wish he could be somewhere else, anywhere else, like sittin' on the back porch in Texas eatin' ribs and dreamin' 'bout baseball. Ahhh, there now. That's better.

But here he is, instead, stuck like a pinned bug in the Rose Garden, struggling to answer tricky, multisyllabic questions from the godforsaken press. Go ahead, read the Q&A, linked above. It's sort of staggering. It's also very impressive, in a soul-stabbing, nauseating way.

Bush is, to be sure and in a word, unyielding. Determined. Immovable. Also, deeply confused. Myopic as hell. Frighteningly narrow minded. Weirdly random ( http://www.fridgemagnet.org.uk/toys/bushconference/ ). Childish in a way that would make any good parent seriously question whether it might be time to get their child some Ritalin and an emetic.

Unlike you or me or any human anywhere who happens to be in possession of humility or subtlety of mind, Bush, to this day, admits zero mistakes. He refuses help, rejects suggestions that everything is not dandy and swell. He is confounded by questions that dare suggest he might be somewhat inept, or failing. And he absolutely insists that America exists in some sort of bizarre utopian vacuum, isolated and virtuous and towering like a mad hobbled king over our enemies and allies alike.

He is, in other words, our downfall.

Iraq? Going smoothly, Bush says, happy with the progress there, despite huge surges in insurgent violence and endless uptick of the U.S. death toll and the utter wasteland we've made of that poor, shredded nation.

Iran, North Korea and Egypt? Just dandy. No serious problems at all. Gotta talk more with that "North Korean" guy though, sort out the "nukuler" problem. Sneering thug John Bolton for U.N. ambassador? You betcha, still on track, a good man, despite what everybody -- and I do mean everybody -- says.


Overhaul Social Security, despite an enormous lack of support from Dems and Repubs and the vast majority of the American people? "Just a matter of time," Bush mutters, completely blinded to the fact that it's an enormous mistake. His deeply hypocritical stance on stem-cell research ( http://slate.msn.com/id/2119512/ ) that kow-tows to the deeply ignorant Christian Right? No real answer there. Doesn't compute. Just shrug that sucker right off.

Notice, when you read: There is no eloquent, deeply felt defense of ideas. There is no intellectual breakdown of opinion, no multifaceted explanation, no passionate clarification. And there is certainly no reference to outside ideas, a confession that we might need help, input, wisdom from our neighbors, from science, from the wise and the experienced.

It's a fact we've known all along but which keeps hammering at us like a drunk gorilla hammers at a dead mouse: Bush is able to speak only at one level, to one level. The level of a child. The level of a simpleton. The level of a sweet, bumbling, small-town mayor, addressing a PTA meeting, everyone in soft plaids and everyone drinking light beer and everyone wondering about just what the heck to do about the rusty swing sets and the busted stoplight.

Bush is, of course, not talking to you or me or anyone with a remotely active imagination when he speaks at press conferences, or at his staged, pre-screened, sycophant-rich "town hall" meetings, so full of plain, everyday folk hand-selected for their blind love of Shrub and lack of ability to ask hard questions (read this transcript of a recent town hall on Social Security ( http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases ... 524-3.html ), and come away stupefied at the man's shocking ability to appear just exactly as gullible and uneducated as his questioners).

He is not even speaking to conservative Democrats or moderate Republicans. He's certainly not speaking to highly educated people who harbor a sincere curiousity for and tenuous understanding of the complexities of the world.

Bush is, of course, speaking to children. He is speaking to babies. It is a decidedly shallow and hollow and oddly deflated type of language that offers not a single nutritious or substantive thought to the political or cultural dialogue, other than to expand his staggering collection of embarrassing Bushisms ( http://slate.msn.com/id/76886/ ).

It's all merely a crayon drawing, an intellectual wading pool, a big messy cartoon world populated by manly white good guys and fanged dark evil guys and we are good and They are evil and that's all there is to it so please stop asking weird tricky polysyllabic questions.

Maybe this is appropriate. Maybe this is as it should be. After all, we are, by and large, a nation that refuses to grow up, refuses to take responsibility for our gluttony and its global effects, refuses to see the world as it is now, a mad tangle of interconnected humanity, a global marketplace, a hodgepodge of variegated religions all stemming from the same source and which therefore all require a nimble and nuanced and deeply intelligent leadership, to navigate. Qualities which our current leadership has, well, not at all.

The U.S. still behaves, when all is said and done, like one of those scared wild monkeys, clinging desperately to a shiny object despite the trap ( http://nsinte1.moe.edu.sg/project/wt/re ... enDocument ) closing in all around us, unable to let go of this old, silly, faux-cowboy mentality of boom boom kill kill God is your daddy now sit down and shut up.


What causes the downfall of empires? What causes the implosion of leadership, the slide of great nations into the deep muck of recession and war and mediocrity and numb irrelevance? That's easy. Stagnation. Refusal to change. Refusal to adapt, to progress. Refusal to grow the hell up, to take responsibility for our shortcomings and failures, as well as our successes.


Indeed, George W. Bush would make a great small-town mayor, somewhere deep in a dusty, forgotten part of Texas. His still-appalling inability to speak with any depth or resonance, coupled with his brand of personable, aww-shucks, none-too-bright simpleton worldview is perfect for some cute, redneck, tiny burg. It really is.

But for a major world power caught in the throes of a desperate need to change and grow and evolve, he is, of course, imminent death, leading us deeper into a regressive ideological tar pit from which we may never emerge.

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Mike Morford Wrote:
Myopic as hell. Frighteningly narrow minded. Weirdly random. Childish in a way that would make any good parent seriously question whether it might be time to get their child some Ritalin and an emetic.


Pot, meet Kettle:

Self-proclaimed open-minded intellectual Mark Morford Wrote:
deeply ignorant Christian Right


Self-proclaimed open-minded intellectual Mark Morford Wrote:
Bush is able to speak only at one level, to one level. The level of a child. The level of a simpleton.


Self-proclaimed open-minded intellectual Mark Morford Wrote:
none-too-bright simpleton worldview is perfect for some cute, redneck, tiny burg


Morford is Hannity for the SUV hating set. And also, if GWB does not topple the American Empire, will Mike Morford step out of his hemp upholstered chair and admit his mistake?

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Morford is Hannity for the SUV hating set. And also, if GWB does not topple the American Empire, will Mike Morford step out of his hemp upholstered chair and admit his mistake?


And if he doesn't, will he offer it up to the unwashed masses for loose joints?


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Elvis Fu Wrote:
Mike Morford Wrote:
Myopic as hell. Frighteningly narrow minded. Weirdly random. Childish in a way that would make any good parent seriously question whether it might be time to get their child some Ritalin and an emetic.


Pot, meet Kettle:

Self-proclaimed open-minded intellectual Mark Morford Wrote:
deeply ignorant Christian Right


Self-proclaimed open-minded intellectual Mark Morford Wrote:
Bush is able to speak only at one level, to one level. The level of a child. The level of a simpleton.


Self-proclaimed open-minded intellectual Mark Morford Wrote:
none-too-bright simpleton worldview is perfect for some cute, redneck, tiny burg


Morford is Hannity for the SUV hating set. And also, if GWB does not topple the American Empire, will Mike Morford step out of his hemp upholstered chair and admit his mistake?


i mean, you're right, he's mostly just spouting angry hate speech, but...is he wrong?

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Almost every time I read him.

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Elvis Fu Wrote:
[Morford is Hannity for the SUV hating set. And also, if GWB does not topple the American Empire, will Mike Morford step out of his hemp upholstered chair and admit his mistake?


Perhaps, but I get the sense from the article that if GWB knew or understood his own policies/actions and be able to elucidate his purpose or reasoning, maybe the respect-o-meter would bounce up a bit. His inability/refusal to elaborate, communicate details of issues makes one wonder if he truly is the person making those complex decisions.

And, I admit I am no fan, but I would at least be comforted in the fact that his decisions are somewhat intellectually/scientifically/empirically derived as opposed to gut driven. It would be better if he simply gave credit to his staff than to pretend it is all his doing and not understand the details.

Anyway, not meaning to rub hairs, but would'nt anyone at least expect clear realized answers from the commander and chief most of the time.

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Elvis Fu Wrote:
[Morford is Hannity for the SUV hating set. And also, if GWB does not topple the American Empire, will Mike Morford step out of his hemp upholstered chair and admit his mistake?


Perhaps, but I get the sense from the article that if GWB knew or understood his own policies/actions and be able to elucidate his purpose or reasoning, maybe the respect-o-meter would bounce up a bit. His inability/refusal to elaborate, communicate details of issues makes one wonder if he truly is the person making those complex decisions.

And, I admit I am no fan, but I would at least be comforted in the fact that his decisions are somewhat intellectually/scientifically/empirically derived as opposed to gut driven. It would be better if he simply gave credit to his staff than to pretend it is all his doing and not understand the details.

Anyway, not meaning to rub hairs, but would'nt anyone at least expect clear realized answers from the commander and chief most of the time.

respect to all for/against just my .o2


Thems some big words this late at night. You must be book learned.


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Valid points, Mr. Foamrush, but not with Morford.

Number one, if those were his concerns, I doubt he would fart out his own gut reaction of name calling and dirt kicking.

I'm not a Bush fan either, but I dislike the Mark Morfords as much as the G. Gordon Liddy's and what's-his-name Scarborough.

This article contributes [b]absolutely nothing[b] in the form of constructive debate or ideas. Morford isn't interested in real change. He is convinced that he has a monopoly on truth and politics, which just happens to be one of his prime complaints against the Bush Administration.

It's just more beating of horses that died in November 2000.

Not picking you out, Senor Miami, just responding. I enjoyed your comments.

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On a surface level, this article is correct, but on a deeper one it's part of the problem. This is the sort of rant that Bush supporters point to and laugh at. Then they point out what a bunch of whiners Bush-haters are.

The real problem is one of lying. Bush manufactures crises in order to get his agenda across. His unyeildingness is more than just dumb, it's purposeful.

He's not the least bit stupid. What he is is contemptous of all those who don't agree with him and unconcerned with the damage his choices cause. It's a level of stupidity that's much worse than being literally stupid, but it's a planned stupidity. If you manufacture the crises, you can control the solution to those crises and effectively rework the nation to your line of thought.


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Thems some big words this late at night. You must be book learned.


just drunk and drinkin', surprised it made any sense


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It's just more beating of horses that died in November 2000.



You mean you don't win fights by whining and saying I told you so?

Bloor and I were discussing something interesting the other day, and that is the societal rot that all of this "Public schools, the media, and liberals" stuff is reaping.

If you distrust everything, what is left to believe in? Skepticism = good, outright distrust of the powers over society leads to the failure of that society, or the easy co-optability of huge portions by megalomaniacs.

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Loog, you're right of course, but the problem I have is that I 100% believe that people like Rumsfeld and Cheney ARE liars, continue to be so and are completely aware that they're lying.

It's not a liberal whiner thing. It's a belief that there's a group of people who had a vision to rework the country as far back as the late 1960's and they're now succeeding under the cover of fighting terrorism.

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