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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:51 pm 
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So I bought the Session 9 dvd from someone on Ebay and not only did it take them 9 business days to send the fucking thing, but I open the package today and it's a goddamn bootleg/burned version of it. They better give me my money back or there's going to be a phone call to the MPAA.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:54 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 7:11 pm 
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So I bought the Session 9 dvd from someone on Ebay and not only did it take them 9 business days to send the fucking thing, but I open the package today and it's a goddamn bootleg/burned version of it. They better give me my money back or there's going to be a phone call to the MPAA.

I'm pretty sure that if you contact Ebay and tell them it's an infringing item, you'll get your money back. They have that safe-harbor thing, I believe it's called, to protect the buyer from crap like this. It might take some perseverence, if my previous experiences are any indication. You have to badger, badger, BADGER them to get a response. And make sure to leave feedback - after you ask the guy for your money back - that tells exactly what he pulled. Future potential buyers need to know what this guy's up to.

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It also helps if the person you're going after isn't a power user. I got screwed once and because this bitch had sold over 20,000 different items on there... they didn't have any trouble ignoring me.


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WEAK.

Mot's got the best idea, IMO.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 9:05 pm 
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I got an e-mail back from the seller saying that it states right in the listing that it's a burned copy.

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Your DVD Player must be compatible with DVD+R dual layer discs
doesn't exactly spell it out.

So I wrote to Paypal...

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I bought this item on 6/21/2005 and received it on 7/9/2005. I thought I was buying an original factory copy of this dvd and upon inspection of the item it turned out that it was a burned/bootleg copy. I then contacted the seller to see if I could receive a refund and was issued this response.
"Hi! I'm sorry for the confustion. All my auctions state the following: The statement that it is a DVD+R dual layer disc means it is not a factory disc. Lora This DVD is REGION 1 Your DVD Player must be compatible with DVD+R dual layer discs As one collector of horror movies to another, I offer this recording from my personal collection in the hopes that it will help complete your own collection. If you are concerned about whether this is a boot or a factory released original, feel free to email me at Archmagus_Majere@yahoo.com Be assured that if you are purchasing a boot, only name brand, high-quality discs are used and professionally burned, including all extras and menus. Artwork will be printed professionally on high-quality photo-grade paper and cut to fit case. All discs will be labeled." So apparently the seller does not want to issue me a refund when I feel I was deceived by the listing. Also isn't this against the law to sell copies of dvd's? Thanks, Jon


haha they're fucked.

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In his defense, he did pretty much spell it out that it was a bootleg.


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In his defense, he did pretty much spell it out that it was a bootleg.


Still, you shouldn't be selling that shit on Ebay.

I got my refund.

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i was sure this was my birthday thread.


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i was sure this was my birthday thread.


Hey, it's ayah.


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I got my refund.


Do you get to keep the DVD, too?


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Aural Fixation Wrote:
In his defense, he did pretty much spell it out that it was a bootleg.

No he didn't. Hinting at something doesn't mean he's spelled it out. I would not have picked up that the item was a copy. And, besides, Ebay's rules very clearly state that it is illegal to sell infringing items. Whenever I've sold music on Ebay, there's actually a thing I have to click that says that I acknowledge and agree with, and that my item does not violate, their stance on copyright-infringing items. This seller has clearly ignored that.

I bought something off a guy a long time ago whose description said "silver CD." When it arrived, it was a CDR and some crappy printouts of the artwork. I complained and the guy left me bad feedback where he stated that he said in his description "not a press." What the hell does that mean? It was deliberately worded like that to be vague, and saying "silver CD" totally negates that because any collector knows that when you say "silver CD," you mean "original" - this was very, very common at the time because of all the bootleg live albums on Ebay, and collectors wanted the CDs that were actually manufactured. When you said "silver," it meant it was the real thing. Anyway, after 8 or 10 emails to the guy, where I repeatedly pointed out where he deliberately mislead, and also pointed out that if I'd wanted a burned copy of the CD, why would I have paid $6 for something I could have downloaded off the internet for free? Finally, I just went to Ebay and reported him. After a couple of weeks dealing with them, I got my money back and then found a brand new, sealed copy of that album in my mailbox from the guy, so he made good. It only took him about two months to feel guilty. I checked my feedback a while later and remembered this guy, so I clicked through to read his feedback and found he'd stopped selling on there, at least under that name, almost immediately after that, and there was a rash of other sellers complaining of exactly the same thing I did.

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I guess I'm glad I've never bought stuff from e-bay.

Jon, glad you got your refund. Perseverance prevails!


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Aural Fixation Wrote:
I guess I'm glad I've never bought stuff from e-bay.

Jon, glad you got your refund. Perseverance prevails!

Well, you can get some rare or hard to find stuff on Ebay, you just have to be careful of shady shit like this. But yea, its good to hear you got your moneys back.


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shiv Wrote:
I got my refund.


Do you get to keep the DVD, too?


Yeah. I'll probably just give it to someone.

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