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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:58 pm 
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My mom sent this to me today.
I thought I would let you guys know as well.
It took 2 minutes to do this.

Subject: Release of cell phone numbers

JUST A REMINDER... In a few days from today, cell phone
numbers are being released to telemarketing companies
and you will start to receive sale calls.YOU WILL BE
CHARGED FOR THESE CALLS...

To prevent this, call the following number from your
cell phone: 888/382-1222. It is the National DO NOT
CALL list. It will only take a minute of your time. It
blocks your number for five (5) years.
or www.donotcall.gov

PASS THIS ON TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS

The information contained in this e-mail may be confidential and is
intended solely for the use of the named addressee.
Access, copying or re-use of the e-mail or any information contained
therein by any other person is not authorized.
If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately by
returning the e-mail to the originator.(16b)


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good call.

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This isn't true apparently:

E-mail on cell phones is persistent but phony
Although Portland-based Qsent plans a voluntary directory for cell phones, it will not have a mass release or telemarketing
Wednesday, April 27, 2005
MIKE ROGOWAY

Individually, cell phones and the Internet are merely high-tech mediums for communication.

In tandem, though, a message about one carried by the other demonstrates how technology can breed miscommunication. A Portland company is again near the center of a resulting storm.

"In 31 days, cell phone numbers are being released to telemarketing companies," warns one version of an e-mail widely circulating on the Internet. "You will start to receive sales calls to your cell phones. You will be charged for these calls."

The e-mail, which first appeared last fall, is fiction. No release of cell phone numbers is planned, and telemarketing to cell phones is against federal law.

But the e-mail has had a profound effect nonetheless.

The message encourages people to register their cell phone numbers with the federal "Do Not Call" list, which has received an onslaught of registrations this month. Most weeks, the list registers fewer than 200,000 numbers. But registrations have topped 1 million in each of the past three weeks, and the list took 2.5 million new numbers last week.

The e-mails were apparently inspired by a very real plan to create a national cell phone directory service this year or next, according to Kathleen Pierz, a wireless industry analyst. But the service, engineered by Portland-based Qsent Inc., would list only people who ask that their numbers be included and would dispense numbers one by one, instead of in a published directory like the phone book.

"The threat of telemarketing is nonexistent from this plan, but that's what people are feeding on," Pierz said. She blames the wireless industry for doing a poor job of explaining its plan and allowing e-mail rumors to fill the information void.

"The problem is they didn't communicate it, and it's just startling to me how quickly hysteria took the place of facts with these e-mails," Pierz said.

Qsent, which hosts private information for a variety of industries, insists the e-mail rumors haven't been an inconvenience for the company or the planned wireless 411 service. Greg Keene, Qsent's chief privacy officer, said attention from the e-mails has given the company a chance to explain how wireless 411 service would really work.

However, Pierz said the e-mails have definitely been a setback, discouraging people from listing with the new wireless directory and reducing the usefulness of a service that could have had real benefits for consumers. Lawmakers have criticized the plan, wireless companies have postponed their participation, and the service -- unveiled by industry leaders last year before Congress -- is little talked about now by cell phone carriers.

Internet rumors move the same way verbal gossip does, only faster, said Gisele Tierney, who teaches a class on gossip in the workplace at Portland State University.

"Every time it's passed along, it gains momentum," Tierney said. "People give it credibility by engaging with it."

The e-mail now making the rounds contains a specific -- though false -- time frame for the cell phone numbers to be made public. It also has the "Do Not Call" list's real phone number and Web site.

All those details add credibility, Tierney said.

"In the mind of the reader, there is no qualifier that poses a question mark to wonder if this is legitimate information," she said.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:09 pm 
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just a precaution


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Always consult snopes.com when stuff like this comes up:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp

Celling Your Soul

Claim: A directory of cell phone numbers will soon be published.

Status: Multiple:

* A consortium of wireless providers is planning to create a 411 (directory assistance) service for cell phone numbers: True.


* You must register your cell phone with the national "Do Not Call" directory before 1 January 2005 to prevent your number from being provided to telemarketers: False.

Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2004]

A directory of cell phone numbers will soon be published for all consumers to have access to. This will open the doors for solicitors to call you on your cell phones, using up the precious minutes that we pay lots of money for. The Federal Trade Commission has set up a "do not call" list. It is called a cell phone registry. To be included on the "do not call" list, you must call from the number you wish to register.

The number is 1-888-382-1222 or you can go to their website at www.donotcall.gov.


Starting Jan 1, 2005, all cell phone numbers will be made public to telemarketing firms. So this means as of Jan 1, your cell phone may start ringing off the hook with telemarketers, but unlike your home phone, most plans pay for your incoming calls. These telemarketers will eat up your free minutes and end up costing money. According to the National Do Not Call List, you have until Dec 15, 2004 to get on the national "Do Not Call List" for cell phones. You can either call 1-888-382-1222 from the cell phone that you wish to have put on the "do not call list" or you can do it online at www.donotcall.gov.

Registering only takes a minute, is in effect for 5 years. All of you will need to register before Dec 15. You may want to also do your own personal cell phones.


Origins: As the use of cellular telephone technology has grown tremendously in the last several years, many consumers have given up maintaining traditional land-line phone service entirely. They Cell phone prefer the convenient portability of cell phones, as well as the privacy: So far, cell phone numbers have generally been excluded from printed phone directories and directory assistance services, and protections have been put in place to restrict telemarketing calls to cell phones.

Soon, however, some of the privacy that cell phones provide may be eroded. Six national wireless companies (AllTel, AT&T Wireless, Cingular, Nextel, Sprint PCS, and T-Mobile) have banded together and hired Qsent, Inc. to produce a Wireless 411 service. Their goal is to pool their listings to create a comprehensive directory of cell phone customer names and phone numbers that would be made available to directory assistance providers. (In most places, telephone users can call directory assistance at 411 [for local numbers] or by dialing an area code plus 555-1212 [for out-of-area numbers] and, by providing enough information to identify an individual phone customer [usually a full name and city of residence], obtain that customer's phone number.

Many cell phone customers are opposed to the proposed Wireless 411 service for a number of reasons:

* They prefer the privacy of knowing that their cell phone numbers are available only to those to whom they provide them. They don't want other people being able to obtain their cell phone numbers without their consent or knowledge.

* They are concerned that their cell phone numbers will be sold to telemarketers (or other groups that might make undesirable use of those numbers).

* They see one of the goals of the Wireless 411 service as a ploy to spread cell phone numbers to wider circles of friends and acquaintances, who will then place calls to cell phones and thereby force cell customers to pay for additional wireless minutes.

The wireless companies behind the proposed Wireless 411 service contend that their service will be beneficial to cellular customers and that they have addressed those customers' major concerns:

* The service would save money for the estimated five million customers who use only cellular phones and currently pay to have their cell phone numbers listed in phone directories.

* The Wireless 411 service would be strictly "opt-in" — that is, wireless customers will be included in the directory only if they specifically request to be added. The phone numbers of wireless customers who do nothing will not be included, those who choose to be listed can have their numbers removed from the directory if they change their minds, and there is no charge for requesting to be included or choosing not to be included.

* The Wireless 411 information will not be included in printed phone directories, distributed in other printed form, made available via the Internet, or sold to telemarketers. It will be made available only to operator service centers performing the 411 directory assistance service.

All of these points have been summed up in numerous media articles, such as the following from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel:
There is a grain of truth in the message making it believable, but it's wrong on two counts: Not all cell phone numbers will be listed in the national directory planned for 2006. And telemarketers will not have access to the directory. It is illegal for marketers using auto-dialers — and most do — to call wireless phone numbers.

Here's the truth:

A national directory will be compiled, but numbers will be included on an opt-in basis. If a cell phone subscriber does nothing, the number will not be listed. When the directory is ready, it will be available only as part of the existing 411 directory service, accessed by calling in and asking for a specific number. It will not be published in a book or on the Internet. And it will not be sold to telemarketers.

Cell phone subscribers can list their numbers on the do-not-call registry if they choose, but there is no deadline to get on the list, as the e-mail messages now circulating suggest
Nonetheless, many consumers don't trust the Wireless 411 consortium to uphold their promises, and although Qsent and its clients plan to make the Wireless 411 service available sometime in 2006, its implementation is far from certain as the wireless companies are still contesting proposed legislation which seeks to regulate wireless phone directories.

So, although the gist of the message quoted at the head of this page is correct in alerting consumers to a proposed directory of cell phone numbers, it is misleading in stating that such a directory will "soon be published" (the word "published" implies making a printed directory available, which the wireless consortium maintains they will not do) and in directing readers to sign up with the The National Do Not Call Registry. The latter step will not keep wireless customer listings out of the proposed Wireless 411 database — it will only add their phone numbers to a list of numbers off-limits to most telemarketers, a step which is premature (because the Wireless 411 directory has not yet been implemented) and largely unnecessary (because the Wireless 411 directory information is not supposed to be supplied to telemarketers, and because FCC regulations already in place block the bulk of telemarketing calls to cell phones).

Some versions of the exhortation to cell phone users to add their names to the Do Not Call Registry erroneously state there is a 15 December 2004 deadline for getting listed. Says Lois Greisman, the Federal Trade Commission official who oversees the anti-telemarketing registry: "There is no deadline; there never has been a deadline to register."

However, belief that there might be such a cut-off coupled with the e-mailed alerts themselves have served to multiply many times over the number of registrations. Since the initial wave of sign-ups following the 2003 launch of the list, registrations have come in at the rate of 200,000 new numbers a week. Yet in the final week of November 2004, nearly 1 million new subscribers were added, and in the first week of December 2004, that figure jumped to 2 million. At this point in time, 69 million phone numbers are contained in the registry.

Adding one's cell phone number to the National Do Not Call Registry (even if currently unnecessary) won't have any adverse effect, but customers should be aware of exactly what that action will and will not accomplish.

Updates: Verizon Wireless and U.S. Cellular Corp. have always been opposed to the proposed cell phone directory, and initial partners Sprint Corp. and Alltel Corp. have since pulled away from the project due to concerns about bad publicity and possible new government regulations. So, as of January 2005, even if the cell phone directory database was compiled as planned, at least 45% of U.S. cell phone numbers wouldn't be included.

In April 2005, USA Today reported that registrations for the national do-not-call list for the week ending April 2 were about double the normal level, and registrations for the following week reached a peak five times higher than average. The newspaper also reiterated what we stated above:
. . . the anxiety is unfounded. First, it's illegal to make sales pitches to wireless phones by using automatic dialers — which is how the vast majority of telemarketing calls are placed. (One reason is that cellular users must pay for incoming calls.)

Also, most of the big wireless carriers have chosen either not to take part in the directory or to put off any plans to do so in light of consumer fears. They say any directory would include only those customers who agreed to participate and that the numbers would not be shared with telemarketers or anyone else. Congress has considered a bill to codify such rules.

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Regardless of what any invisible mouth-piece for any organization claims, I've received several telemarketing calls on my cell already, beginning only about a month ago.


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I love how all of the information in this thread cancels each other out, so that you feel like you've learned something by the end, but you don't have to remember, or do, anything.

All hail the internets.


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Get off the damn phone and drive.


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don't have one.

don't care.

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cmanhatan4 Wrote:
don't have one.

don't care.
Then why are you even here?


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http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bltop25.htm

I love this site. It's sad to say, but every other email I get from my mom or step-dad is some kind of warning for something or other... and I always find it listed on this site.

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The Urban Legends Top 25
Top 25 most popular topics of the past week

Week Ending: 07/17/05 [Previous Week] [New Netlore]

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25. 'Love Rollercoaster'


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polly six Wrote:
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bltop25.htm

I love this site. It's sad to say, but every other email I get from my mom or step-dad is some kind of warning for something or other... and I always find it listed on this site.


Thanks for the link, urban legends are always interesting to read. I've actually got a book on the sociology of them, discussing how and why they tend to get started etc. I moved around a lot as a kid and got well versed in the "my girlfriend's brother's best friend's cousin told me about this girl who..... and it's TOTALLY true!"

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