this is pretty flat. and im really disappointed in the lyrics. maybe i've grown up since the days of listening to pinkerton and thinking "yeah, i can relate", but the lyrics are pretty sophmoric

Agreed. It's very "eh" to me. I'm hoping the album material is better. I've only heard Make Believe once so maybe if I heard it a few more times....

they're finished.

I'm guessing this is a BINGO remark. I haven't heard Weezer's new one, but I think every other Weezer album sucks equally. The only explanation I've ever been able to come up with for all the love for the first two and hatred for the others is that the first two hit a lot of BB'ers at an age where they were receptive to them. Presumably they've maintained some sentimental attachment which enables them to call one pile shit the other shinola. There's really no big difference between Green & Blue to me other than the color of the packaging.

you may be right, but listening to the blue album was so much fun when I was 15.

Billy G nailed it.

sux

retards.

Me as well...That about sums it up...Nothing spectacular...NO real good song or songs...Just "eh"...

i don't think even matt sharp rejoining the band could save them now.

I have to take issue with this. Not with the fact that many people heard Blue as teenagers, but on the supposed interchangability of that album and Green (and indeed any of the latter day Weezer releases). I listened to Green a couple of months ago after not having listened to it since it came out, thinking that "maybe time has made my ears approach Weezer differently, it's probably not much different from Blue to me now." I barely got through Green when I listened. Put on Blue a couple days later, and for me, that record still rules.

the simple fact is, after Pinkerton, Weezer was no more.

yeah i don't think that Blue and Green are that comprable either.

yeah wtf

i think the songs on blue and pinkerton are very catchy. after that - meh.

green sounds like blue ten years later, playing in the food court of a wisconsin mall outside hot topic, wondering how MTV passed them up, and Rivers is all trying to pick up younger asian girls.

I'm in the Billy G/Radcliffe camp on this one. Hate them now, hated them then. The Happy Days video was kinda cute, but that's all I can say niec about them.

I absolutely fucking hate it when people start referring to Pinkerton as a work of genius.

Well, let me clarify in case you or anyone else felt insulted by my remark. I don't hear any difference between Green and Blue. I've really listened for it before and just don't hear it. I am not looking down on anyone who likes Green or Blue, I just don't hear any difference and that's the only explanation I've been able to come up with for why some people may like one but not the other.

When I say that, I'll cop to liking Sublime which is probably a band that irritates many here. But it hit me in the right time of my life, living in S. CA on the beach and spending a large % of my time pretty liquored up. If Bradley Nowell were still alive and Sublime put out an album out in 2005, I'm not sure how much I'd care for it. But the couple of times I've heard Sublime in the last year I've still dug 'em and I suspect a large part of my liking 'em was the good memories the songs conjured up.

I also take issue with saying that Blue and Green are the same. Sure, the debut and Pinkerton both had their share of stupidity, kitschiness, and bad lyrics. But there was also depth, emotion, and a lot of sincerity.

Green and Maladroit still have the kitchiness, the bad lyrics, some decent riffs and catchy melodies, but they come across as insincere, distant, and just plain not as good. If the first two Weezer albums are Pearl Jam, the Green album is Candlebox. And Maladroit is maybe the first Stone Temple Pilots album.

I'll tell you guys how they were after Coachella.. gonna check out part of their set.

no WAY you are suggesting that candlebox is better that stp!!!!!

I agree with certain aspects, billy g. I heard Blue when I was 15 or so and it really got me back into listening to rock music after a long time of ONLY listening to rap. I kind of shrugged Pinkerton off when it was released. I was in college, and it got pretty bad reviews, so I never picked it up. I still remember Yail telling me a story and saying something about "listening to that second Weezer album" and me asking him if it was good, and he being astonished I had not heard, and me buying it either that day or when I got payed later that week. Fucking awesome album, with some catchy ass songs and some decent lyrics, seriously.

I also remember when Green came out and me and Busty and Yail freaking out to it when I came through ATL on my from DC to Cali (mattro fack, Busty gave me his copy to help me on my trip, BIG UPS) and I still love that album. Very good catchy guitar pop, without desecnding into mall punk.

I bought Maladroit the day it came out, but it oes not have the immediate pop accessibility of the others, and remains my least favorite. I have heard the Beverly Hills single, and while it hasn't knocked me on my ass, I await the whole album.

if I ever get too indie for shit like weezer, I will have to get a faux hawk and start wearing bowling shoes or something.

Jesus, you people and your bs taste sometimes

I'm afraid for Make Believe, seeing as how uninspired "Beverly Hills" is.

I kind of think Green Album is underrated, though, and the rest of Weezer's albums are fun listens, though I do blame Pinkerton on the current wave of emo craptitude.

I HEARD THAT!!