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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 10:46 am 
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Rating: 0.4

C'mon a point fucking 4. It cannot possibly be this terrible.

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have you heard the single

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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 10:54 am 
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its a generous rating


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have you heard the single

No, but I know it's #9 on the UK chart. That means absolutely nothing.


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have you heard the single

No, but I know it's #9 on the UK chart. That means absolutely nothing.


listen to it. then the rating will make perfect sense.

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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 11:07 am 
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I was just going to post about this. I'm going to wait for some other reviews but I'm not really that surprised. Pitchfork tends to be the extreme with its ratings so if this CD gets a Metascore above 60, there's still hope for the album. I have a feeling Pitchfork isn't that far off though...

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Yeah, and Rob Mitchum is probably the most sane of the P-fork reviewers. That's pretty harsh....

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i don't think its all that good either , but NOT a .4

i would give it a rating in the range of 5.0-6.0


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I was expecting a 0.3.


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The fact that they bothered to learn instruments and record it in the first place had got to be worth a rating of 2 at least.

I don't have much time for Weezer but the reviewer is obviously a drama queen. Please, we get that you don't like it from reading the review.

0.4! I feel insulted!

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Still...that "beverly hills" crap merits a .2 in my opinion.


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Based on hearing that Beverly Hills song, I think it's 0.4 too high. Weezer sucks, always have.

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Well written review. Very accurate.

I tend to agree. The song that he sorta liked is the song I sorta like.


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I'm certain that the "0.4" makes perfect sense, but that review is pretentious crap:

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Weezer have been given a lot of breaks in their second era-- both The Green Album and Maladroit were cut miles of slack despite consisting of little more than slightly above-average power-pop. The obvious reason for this lenience has to do with the mean age of rock critics, and the fact that most of these mid-20s scribes were at their absolute peak for bias-forming melodrama when The Blue Album and Pinkerton were released. Even for someone like me, who came late to the Weezer appreciation club, it was impossible to hear these "comeback" albums without the echoes of the earlier alt-rock pillars ringing in our ears.


Thank you, Pitchfork, for knowing EVERYTHING. The mean-age of rock critics? WTF does that have to do with anything? Why would rock critics all the sudden become that exact age?


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The mean-age of rock critics? WTF does that have to do with anything? Why would rock critics all the sudden become that exact age?

You do understand the definition of mean, right?


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ha ha ha.

i'm actually quite entertained by this. there was one point in time where i LOVED weezer. so disappointing.

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OK, after my lunchtime discussion of this record and the PFM review, I have to weigh in one more time here.

1. People obviously read PFM, too many strident opinions to be otherwise.

2. Generally, there are few surprises on that site.

3. They show you the "score" for the record as soon as you open the review.

4. If it's a record you really like, and you know they are going to rip it, why put yourself through reading the review just to be mad about it later?

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I'm not gonna read the review, cuz I think Pitchfork is staffed by a bunch of hipster doofus jerkoffs...but I'm listening to the album right now, & I think it's OK. I mean, it's WEEZER fer Chrissakes...they've always been overrated. And I LIKE them ( own all the albums, & all that ) .


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I'm over pitchfork.

now i just glance at their news headlines and that bout it.

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The mean-age of rock critics? WTF does that have to do with anything? Why would rock critics all the sudden become that exact age?

You do understand the definition of mean, right?


Haha. And here I was thinking that the mean age argument was a good point in the review.

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The mean-age of rock critics? WTF does that have to do with anything? Why would rock critics all the sudden become that exact age?

You do understand the definition of mean, right?

Uh, duh.

Yeah, my point is how does liking a band that was popular 6 years ago reflect on your age. Maybe if they in high school, but were most rock critics in 2001 between the ages of 18-23? Do you retire as a rock critic at age 24?


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In less boring news, the interview with James Murphy was pretty cool. I found myself agreeing with a lot of his perspectives on things, particularly the difficulty of even coming close to being well-rounded musically. Sure makes sense to me these days, as I find myself more excited with groups like the Band than I do with most of the re-tread fashionistas out there making the hits.

I'm sure there's some sort of ironic "but doesn't he realize..." thing in there that I don't see.

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The mean-age of rock critics? WTF does that have to do with anything? Why would rock critics all the sudden become that exact age?

You do understand the definition of mean, right?

Uh, duh.

Yeah, my point is how does liking a band that was popular 6 years ago reflect on your age. Maybe if they in high school, but were most rock critics in 2001 between the ages of 18-23? Do you retire as a rock critic at age 24?


Maybe he meant "mode."


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i hope weezer calls it quits because of that review.

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