Btw, the Bears EASILY beat Dallas next week, even with Krenzel or WHOEVER at QB. The cowboys truly do suck.

we were playing with a qb who could barely even walk up to the huddle. and, he wasn't the starting qb for the last 5-6 games.

we kicked the rams ass a few weeks back. on any given sunday.... other than the packers game, you guys beat the niners (the bottom of the bottom) and won a game only because of special teams and an INT.

wanna wager a mix cd on the bears v. cowboys game?

I'll take the home team in that matchup---where they playing?

it's in dallas on turkey day.

cowboys 20
bears 13

Take it from this Cowboys fan...

The Dallas Cowboys will not win another game this season.

Put your money on the Bears and you'll have plenty to be thankful for this Thanksgiving...even though the Bears also suck, just not as badly as Dallas.

except for his first snap, henson looked like he might be a decent QB for the 'boys.

As usual, Big Bob comes in with some SAGE thoughts....As a fellow fan of Big D I was going to tell Spade I feel his pain, being a fan of a SHITTY team.

And Spade, Rex Grossman ain'ts the answer...sorry...move along

How much have you personally seen of grossman? Did you watch anything but highlights of the first three games? be honest.

grossman IS the answer for that team. They don't need a star at that position in that offense.

I'll wager anything that the bears will beat the cowboys on thanksgiving

We also kicked the Giants ass in NY. Or maybe you're leaving out the Tennesee game. The Bears are not a fluke on defense. I predicted 31-3 Colts today. I'm not delusional. In fact, the Colts -7 was my stone cold lock of the week against the spread.

Like I said, I'll put anything on the Bears to win on Thanksgiving. The Cowboys SUCK.

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you sound like wannstedt talking about fiedler.

i have watched some of the grossman games, and while he has shown some signs that he could be a good/great QB...he has not shown enough to warrant having only quinn and krenzel as backups.

jay fiedler also has had some great games where he looked like he could be the next big thing. but look where that has gotten the dolphins over the past 5 years.

look forward to Da Basement

Bears 1, Packers 0. See you in December.

Grossman is a former Gator, so I know him and his ilk, andc they just don't seem to produce good NFL qbs, a generalization to be sure, but I just don't see this working when even Spurrier had him as a part of a platoon.

And Spade, like I said, I understand Dallas sucks ass, and is headed in the wrong direction, bit it ain't like the Bears are just that one player away from being contendas..or maybe they are, that's why we play the games, as they say.

They have one of the best and deepest defenses in the league, and no shortcomings at any defensive positions. They have a great emerging running back in Thomas Jones and probably the best second string running back in the league in A-train. Their O-Line is finally coming together. The QB and the Tight End are the only positions that honestly need shoring up. They may need a good receiver too, but they are fine with the servicable ones they have. They have one of the best kickoff/punt returners in the league, and they have a great field goal kicker. I'm not sure what else they need to shore up!

they have the 11th ranked defense in the nfc (23rd overall) and the 15th ranked offense (tied for last overall). i'd say that something needs to change there, although i'm not sure what.

QB = shambles
RB = solid #1, decent #2
WR = a hodgepodge of average talent; if david terrell could ever keep his head in the game, he'd be good
TE/FB = good options
OL = solid IF they could ever keep all 5 healthy at once
DL = good attackers
LB = with urlacher out, falls to just a decent group
DB = continual injuries, but still the best in the division
K = good kicker, but erratic play in the last 2 seasons & can't kick far
P = solid punter
spec teams = solid group

they have the chance to beat nearly any team any week (what team can't?) but still headed for the underage drinkers downstairs

but i like what lovie's doing. this div's going to be even closer next season.

What a shitty analogy. Grossman's played like five games. A shameless way of inserting some brainless crap about the Dolphins.

and Chase: if you've kept up to date football you'd know that the phrase "Bending but not breaking" has been the common description of the Bears defense. Yeah, they give up a lot of yards, they also cause many turnovers and score more points than their own offense. Indianapolis has been the only exception the past month or so, and it shouldn't have been any different. You take away the boneheaded plays by Krenzel and add on the plays that obviously should have happened on defense(todd johnson knocking the ball out of bounds instead of falling on it, briggs' acting like David Terrell last week) and this game would have been very competitive. You can imagine that it's not very hard for Peyton Manning to lead anyone on a 20 yard drive. This week was just entirely different because it was against the Colts, whom no one seems to be able to stop unless they have a high power offense.

On another note, Vasher has been the best rookie Cornerback in the league. Any bear fan should be pleased with his performance. Already has 4 interceptions. Sure, if he had turned his head slightly to the right it would have stopped a touchdown, but other than that he's been pretty great, not as good as Tillman last year(though he already has the same amount of INTs as Tillman did last year), a great pick up considering how late the pick was.

not really, if you bothered to read sk's statement..."they don't need a star at that position in that offense". that's all i kept hearing about fiedler when ricky williams was still in miami. they just wanted a qb that wouldn't lose the game. that sounds like what spade is saying with grossman.

also, i'd take miami's (healthy) D over the bears any day.

bottom line = miami and chicago are two pathetic offenses with a few good to great athletes and both solid defenses (with miami's D being just a step above).

the thing is, i haven't had to deal with my team having a losing season since 1988...this is all new to me. bears fans have been stuck in mediocrity so long, that i guess i can see how this season might make you think you have a good team.

and the dude is fast as fuck, at least on that interception return

He said a lot more than that for you simply to respond to one small sentence out of a now 437498379483 paragraphs, accumilatively speaking.

whatever. bottom line is the bears are lumped among the shitty teams of the nfl this year along with the dolphins. with grossman or without. deal with it.

The Bears have had at least two defensive starters out of every game ALL YEAR. They are not healthy either. They haven't fielded their starting defense ONCE!

I'll take the Bears healthy over the Dolphins healthy any day.

Sorry, but Grossman has WAAYYYYYYY more upside than Fiedler ever had.

right now this is true because of what little we have seen from grossman. not because we have seen what he can do when (or if) he plays more than 3 games in a row.