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What could they possibly argue? That if you keep it in good shape for 25 years it will be a "classic" and you can sell for a profit?


Yes, ignoramii like you and I are apparently swayed by the popular misconception that a new car depreciates significantly as soon as you drive it off the lot.

Neither of these two ladies could explain their position to this layman. It was way over my head.

One of the debaters also once asked me, "Well, if evolution is true, how come I never see no monkey cross the road and turn into a human?"


Where were you working?!

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Q: Why did the monkey cross the road?

A: To turn into a human!


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Elvis Fu Wrote:
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What could they possibly argue? That if you keep it in good shape for 25 years it will be a "classic" and you can sell for a profit?


Yes, ignoramii like you and I are apparently swayed by the popular misconception that a new car depreciates significantly as soon as you drive it off the lot.

Neither of these two ladies could explain their position to this layman. It was way over my head.

One of the debaters also once asked me, "Well, if evolution is true, how come I never see no monkey cross the road and turn into a human?"


Where were you working?!


The law offices of William, Jennings, and Bryan apparently.

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Oh shit, Chris. That's funny.

The one gal was flat out dee ewe emm bee. The other was just sorta naive.

The flat out dumb one once told me I would appreciate something or other when I got older. She's 3 weeks older than me.

She also called me a "God Hater" because I defined the word "dogma" for her once, and she didn't like the definition, even though another co-worker (a smart one) read the almost identical definition from Merriam-Webster a couple minutes after I had given my defnition.

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A car is a horrible investment. I had this argument all the time at my old job.


Someone took the other side of this one?


I wasn't surprised at the first, but when the next person joined the cause, I was totally blown away.

Yes, I had this argument with two people.


I'm "invested" in two cars. My daily driver I bought for $5,000 last year, I've already had offers to buy for $8,000.

My second I picked up last month, and will have to "invest" further to bring it up to speed, but what I sink in I'll get back nearly dollar for dollar, then I can ride out the appreciation.


Dude, buying classics means you have to know how to work on them, as well as knowing enough to find them at a good price. Even so, most classics don't make you money, they cost you in the long run, unless you never drive them, in which case it's not really a fair comparison.

But you know that.

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Yeah, Billz. You know what I meant.

How's that Ike Reilly b-sides treating you?

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Elvis Fu Wrote:
Yeah, Billz. You know what I meant.

How's that Ike Reilly b-sides treating you?


"B.I.G.O.T." is amazing, should've been on the album--it's the source of "Sparkle In The Finish".

"She's So Free" is likewise wonderful, if short.

"Maybe On The Way Out" is okay, not great. It's basically the music to "Jet Boy Jet Girl" with Reilly lyrics over the top. Definitely sounds like it would be better live.

"Trainbomber" is an acoustic deal that hasn't done much for me yet, but could still click.


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buying classics means you have to know how to work on them, as well as knowing enough to find them at a good price. Even so, most classics don't make you money, they cost you in the long run,


Fair enough, but I started knowing nothing about cars, and now I can make my way around the Ford small block pretty well.

Also, the car community is a damned friendly place to be. Everyone's helpful and supportive.

You do have to be careful with what you buy, and you have to be committed to doing a lot of the work yourself if you're not buying something already restored. That said, lots of serviceable cars are available for pretty good prices. However, if you're patient, you can do pretty well--there are plenty of decent cars in the $5K neighborhood.

I'll probably lose money on the Mustang, but nothing like I'd lose buying a new one. (i.e. when I'm done I will have spent around $25K, but I'll have something worth $25K, rather than $25K that depreciates to $12K) but I'm not buying it for profit, it's the car I'll always keep.


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Since all of you were so helpful I figured I'd let you in on what I decided to do...

I went with the lease because that did make the most sense for me at this point in time. I got just about the price I wanted to pay per month and I'm fairly happy with the car, that being a Civic. In the future I'd definitely buy, but I just didn't have the flow. Thanks again to all who put input into this.

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