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All I know is that I'm stoked that I get to see them perform in a small club this Friday. Gonna buy the album before then.


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I have the feeling that in 10 to 15 years, everyone will be talking about how the 2nd and 3rd Strokes album were underappreciated by critics and fans alike in the 00's. I think these albums are on the Exile plan.

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I'll probly buy it even though I already stole it fair and square.

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I have the feeling that in 10 to 15 years, everyone will be talking about how the 2nd and 3rd Strokes album were underappreciated by critics and fans alike in the 00's. I think these albums are on the Exile plan.


probably. I'm sure they'll say the same thing about Pearl Jam's last 11 albums or whatever, too. Doesn't mean they don't bore the hell out of me now.

They truly are the Velvet Underground of the 00's.

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I'll give it a chance. Probably stop by the record store today after work. Does anyone know how much Best Buy is selling it for?

$9.99 for regular cd, $12.99 for deluxe packaging


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I have the feeling that in 10 to 15 years, everyone will be talking about how the 2nd and 3rd Strokes album were underappreciated by critics and fans alike in the 00's. I think these albums are on the Exile plan.


I know I can;t think of many albums from this era that stack up, to be sure.

Cotton -- if you think this stuff is BORING, I would love to know what you do/listen to for excitement. This is JAIL ROCK non-pareil

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D, I think you have greatly misinterpreted what jail sounds like. This might sound like jail in Paris or something.

I don't think it's bad by any stretch, just not that exciting. Maybe I burned myself out too much on the first album,I don't know it just feels to me like they've just been treading water since then.

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Does "Ize of the World" cut off abruptly on the bought versions?


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I'll give it a chance. Probably stop by the record store today after work. Does anyone know how much Best Buy is selling it for?

$9.99 for regular cd, $12.99 for deluxe packaging


What makes it "deluxe"?


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I have the feeling that in 10 to 15 years, everyone will be talking about how the 2nd and 3rd Strokes album were underappreciated by critics and fans alike in the 00's. I think these albums are on the Exile plan.


What?!?!?! Quite the bold statement.

My god, the Strokes love is strong on this board. At first I thought it was a joke, then not, then again a joke, then not, and now I am beginning to just hope its a joke. Seriously, if you like them, then whatever but the statements coming from people on the grandiose nature of this and all the rest of their albums. Maybe I'm missing out which could very well be the answer, but I just don't get why people are so head over heals with them. To me, none of their material evoked any type of response as to that they were bound for greatness.

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oldbullee Wrote:
I have the feeling that in 10 to 15 years, everyone will be talking about how the 2nd and 3rd Strokes album were underappreciated by critics and fans alike in the 00's. I think these albums are on the Exile plan.


What?!?!?! Quite the bold statement.

My god, the Strokes love is strong on this board. At first I thought it was a joke, then not, then again a joke, then not, and now I am beginning to just hope its a joke. Seriously, if you like them, then whatever but the statements coming from people on the grandiose nature of this and all the rest of their albums. Maybe I'm missing out which could very well be the answer, but I just don't get why people are so head over heals with them. To me, none of their material evoked any type of response as to that they were bound for greatness.


I think rock is stuck in it's own limitations. I think most people have grown sick of bands with no ambitions other than holding on to their own small safe indie audience. But as soon as a band has ambition and states it, they're punished for it. Given time I think these records will reveal themselves away from the hoopla, and I think they'll prove themselves very influential. That's not to say one can not honestly dislike the Strokes right now.

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I remember when I put on last nite at a party last year and everyone that was dancing stopped and got angry. i switched to something else after like 30 seconds.

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My crappy 'special edition' packaging has ripped already. Pass the sellotape please.

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I remember when I put on last nite at a party last year and everyone that was dancing stopped and got angry. i switched to something else after like 30 seconds.



awesome.

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I have the feeling that in 10 to 15 years, everyone will be talking about how the 2nd and 3rd Strokes album were underappreciated by critics and fans alike in the 00's. I think these albums are on the Exile plan.


What?!?!?! Quite the bold statement.

My god, the Strokes love is strong on this board. At first I thought it was a joke, then not, then again a joke, then not, and now I am beginning to just hope its a joke. Seriously, if you like them, then whatever but the statements coming from people on the grandiose nature of this and all the rest of their albums. Maybe I'm missing out which could very well be the answer, but I just don't get why people are so head over heals with them. To me, none of their material evoked any type of response as to that they were bound for greatness.


I think rock is stuck in it's own limitations. I think most people have grown sick of bands with no ambitions other than holding on to their own small safe indie audience. But as soon as a band has ambition and states it, they're punished for it. Given time I think these records will reveal themselves away from the hoopla, and I think they'll prove themselves very influential. That's not to say one can not honestly dislike the Strokes right now.


But see, thats exactly what I feel when I listen to a Strokes album. Limitations. With that being said, I haven't listened to the new one, so perhaps I am being unfair, again its a possibility. The thing is though, in their other albums I haven't found enough variation or drive to trully create a unique document of the time for them to actually warrent my time.

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There wasn't much variation on the Ramones album or a host of other important bands and albums.

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Every article I read that has a quote from the producer or somebody else who was there in studio during the recording basically says the same thing. The producer went in, heard what they started off with, heard what they did to the tracks, and then cried.

Apparently they're holding back and they're purposefully dirtying things up on purpose. I suspect around their fifth or sixth album, when their popularity starts to wane and only the diehards still really care, they'll let it all out and release an album that will end up shattering everyone's notions and making them number one on every year-end list.

Or they might just break up by then.


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I remember when I put on last nite at a party last year and everyone that was dancing stopped and got angry. i switched to something else after like 30 seconds.


Damn. What were you playing before that?


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There wasn't much variation on the Ramones album or a host of other important bands and albums.


But they were doing a fairly new thing in NYC and turning people onto something completely new and fresh for the most part. I just find it hard when bands like The Ramones and Velvet Underground are thrown around with a band like the Strokes.

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I remember when I put on last nite at a party last year and everyone that was dancing stopped and got angry. i switched to something else after like 30 seconds.


Damn. What were you playing before that?


i don't remember exactly but it was probably ol dirty bastard, ramones, outkast, rockwell, le tigre, joy division, billy idol, kelly clarkson, duran duran, peaches, inxs, the stranglers, david bowie, biggie or something else.

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Does "Ize of the World" cut off abruptly on the bought versions?


good question...I've wondered the same

anyone?

anyone?


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jagged Wrote:
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Does "Ize of the World" cut off abruptly on the bought versions?


good question...I've wondered the same

anyone?

anyone?


It does indeed.

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I have the feeling that in 10 to 15 years, everyone will be talking about how the 2nd and 3rd Strokes album were underappreciated by critics and fans alike in the 00's. I think these albums are on the Exile plan.


What?!?!?! Quite the bold statement.

My god, the Strokes love is strong on this board. At first I thought it was a joke, then not, then again a joke, then not, and now I am beginning to just hope its a joke. Seriously, if you like them, then whatever but the statements coming from people on the grandiose nature of this and all the rest of their albums. Maybe I'm missing out which could very well be the answer, but I just don't get why people are so head over heals with them. To me, none of their material evoked any type of response as to that they were bound for greatness.


I think rock is stuck in it's own limitations. I think most people have grown sick of bands with no ambitions other than holding on to their own small safe indie audience. But as soon as a band has ambition and states it, they're punished for it. Given time I think these records will reveal themselves away from the hoopla, and I think they'll prove themselves very influential. That's not to say one can not honestly dislike the Strokes right now.


But see, thats exactly what I feel when I listen to a Strokes album. Limitations. With that being said, I haven't listened to the new one, so perhaps I am being unfair, again its a possibility. The thing is though, in their other albums I haven't found enough variation or drive to trully create a unique document of the time for them to actually warrent my time.


what the fuck do you want them to sound like, ELO? jesus christ, they're a down and dirty rock band. it's real simple. there's plenty of variation though. maybe you're just not picking it out.


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I have the feeling that in 10 to 15 years, everyone will be talking about how the 2nd and 3rd Strokes album were underappreciated by critics and fans alike in the 00's. I think these albums are on the Exile plan.


What?!?!?! Quite the bold statement.

My god, the Strokes love is strong on this board. At first I thought it was a joke, then not, then again a joke, then not, and now I am beginning to just hope its a joke. Seriously, if you like them, then whatever but the statements coming from people on the grandiose nature of this and all the rest of their albums. Maybe I'm missing out which could very well be the answer, but I just don't get why people are so head over heals with them. To me, none of their material evoked any type of response as to that they were bound for greatness.


Given time I think these records will reveal themselves away from the hoopla, and I think they'll prove themselves very influential.


they already have, but people just refuse to see it.


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what the fuck do you want them to sound like, ELO? jesus christ, they're a down and dirty rock band. it's real simple. there's plenty of variation though. maybe you're just not picking it out.


But why is a "down and dirty rock band" such a celebration in music? Look, I'm not attacking anyone who likes the band, I just want more of a reasoning. When the band is mentioned in the same breath with legendary bands/albums or with such vigor as it has been, and then the album(s) are merely average (once again in my estimation), then I wonder, what the heck am I missing? Why didn't many of you like the Bloc Party album or the Louis XIV albums? Again, one could argue they are bands not reaching their full on potentials but had decent to ok albums. Definitely nothing original nor awe-inspiring to a certain extent. So what makes the Strokes, and to a degree this new album such a revelatory statement. Come on sell me on this thing! Give me a reason to thirst over buying it. Make me see the error!

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