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Does anyone celeberate 420. I think the whole idea of the stoner holiday is silly but a lot of people I know have been looking forward to it for a while. my room mate is already stoned out of his mind and its only 9:30. It doesn't help that I go to Appalachian State which is one of the biggest schools for drugs in the nation and that I know more people who smoke weed here than don't. I'm just hoping that I can smoke with some people for free in honor of the "holliday"

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kick your roommate in the balls. Celebrating this day as a "holiday" gives people that smoke pot a bad name. Just like hippies.

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Teaching from 8:30-2:45

auditioning for a group after school

loading in for a show at Sylvie's (first show with a newer group)

scooting over to see Jamie Lidell at The Empty Bottle, anyone else going?

So yeah, who's got time for festivities? Oh yeah, my students.

My students give people who smoke pot a bad name.

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To make things even more interesting the Wailers are playing at my school this weekend and as you could imagine every one is talking about how stoned they are going to get for that. Weed is going at premuim rates right now just becuase of these two events and is in low supply.

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To make things even more interesting the Wailers are playing at my school this weekend and as you could imagine every one is talking about how stoned they are going to get for that. Weed is going at premuim rates right now just becuase of these two events and is in low supply.


too bad yer post count isnt 420 instead of 430

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What is the origin of this holiday?


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420 is police code for a marijuna bust

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What is the origin of this holiday?


accounts vary. some claim it is the police code for a possession violation somewhere but that is apparently false. it just originates from stoners somewhere on the west coast or something.

i am not celebrating today. maybe in a couple of days.

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I do bc it's my man's birthday


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Mrs. Neuro Wrote:
I do bc it's my man's birthday


aren't there better ways to celebrate?

anyhow, origins of 420 from snopes...

http://www.snopes.com/language/stories/420.htm

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Claim: '420' entered drug parlance as a term signifying the time to light up a joint.
Status: True.

Origins: Odd
terms sneak into our language every now and then, and this is one of the oddest. Everyone who considers himself in the know about the drug subculture has heard that '420' has something to do with illegal drug use, but when you press them, they never seem to know why, or even what the term supposedly signifies.

It's both more and less than people make it out to be. '420' began its sub-rosa linguistic career in 1971 as a bit of slang casually used by a group of high school kids at San Rafael High School in California. '420' (always pronounced "four-twenty," never "four hundred and twenty") came to be an accepted part of the argot within that group of about a dozen pot smokers, beginning as a reminder of the time they planned to meet to light up, 4:20 p.m. Keep in mind this wasn't a general call to all dope smokers everywhere to toke up at twenty past four every day; it was twelve kids who'd made a date to meet near a certain statue. It's thus incorrect to deem that '420' originated as a national or international dope-smoking time, even though the term began as a reference to a particular time of day.

These days '420' is used as a generic way of declaring one likes to use marijuana or just as a term for the substance itself. Its earliest connotation of having to do with the time a certain group of students congregated to smoke wacky tobaccy is unknown to the overwhelming majority of those who now employ the term. Indeed, most instead believe one or more of the many spurious explanations that have since grown up about this much abused short form:


420 is the penal code section for marijuana use in California.
Nope. Section 420 of the California penal code refers to obstructing entry on public land. The penal codes of other states list different entries for 420, but none of them matches anything having to do with marijuana.

However, on 1 January 2004 the Governor of California signed that state's Senate Bill 420 which regulates marijuana used for medical purposes. This bill comes years after the term '420' was associated with marijuana and indeed its number likely was chosen because of the existing pop culture connection. This is the tail wagging the dog, not the other way around.


It's the Los Angeles or New York police radio code for marijuana smoking in progress.
It's not the police radio code for anything, let alone that.


It's the number of chemical compounds in marijuana.
The number of chemical compounds in marijuana is 315, according to the folks at High Times magazine.


April 20 is the date that Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, or Janis Joplin died.
Though these performers were strongly identified with drug use during their brief lifetimes and the emerging drug culture after their demises, none of them kicked the bucket on April 20. Morrison died on July 3, Hendrix on September 18, and Joplin on October 4.


The 20th of April is the best time to plant marijuana.
There's no one "best time" -- that answer would change from one part of the country to another, or even one country to another.


Albert Hofmann took the first deliberate LSD trip at 4:20 on 19 April 1943.
This was indeed the case — his lab notes back this up. But this wasn't the source of "420," just an oddball coincidence. (For the pedants out there, Hofmann's first LSD trip, which was accidental, took place on 16 April 1943.)


It's the code you send to your drug dealer's pager.
Yeah, right. All drug dealers recognize a '420' page as "Please be waiting on the corner with my baggie of wildwood weed."


When the Grateful Dead toured, they always stayed in Room 420.
Untrue, says Grateful Dead Productions spokesman Dennis McNally.

Spurious etymologies and uncertain definition aside, '420' has slipped into a position of semi-respectability within the English lexicon. Various free-wheeling cities annually celebrate "hemp fests" on April 20. There's a 4:20 record label in California, and a band called 4:20. Atlanta's Sweetwater Brewing Co. sells its 420 Pale Ale in supermarkets and opens its doors to the public at 4:20 p.m. Mondays through Thursdays. New York's 420 Tours sells low-cost travel packages to the Netherlands and Jamaica. Highway 420 Radio broadcasts "music for the chemically enhanced." And in 2001, the forReal.org web site of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services' Center for Substance Abuse Prevention put out a public service document titled, "It's 4:20 — Do You Know Where Your Teen Is?"

420s are routinely slipped into popular movies and television shows. In Fast Times at Ridgemont High the score of the football game was 42-0. Most of the clocks in Pulp Fiction are set to 4:20 (but not all — when the kid receives the watch it's set at 9:00). And there are many other instances, so keep your eyes peeled.

However, as amusing as it is to tie 420 to pot smoking and hunt for it in popular movies, the number has its dark side. Hitler was born on 20 April 1889, and the massacre of 13 victims at Columbine High School in Colorado took place on 20 April 1999.

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It's probably sourced from Scripture:

Imbeciles 4:20


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c'mon, it's like stoner st. patrick's day. and there's much less vomit.

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my problem is that 90% of the people that celebrate this dumbass idea are the ones that smoke pot 15 times a day like every other day anyway. what's the point?

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kick your roommate in the balls. Celebrating this day as a "holiday" gives people that smoke pot a bad name. Just like hippies.


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my problem is that 90% of the people that celebrate this dumbass idea are the ones that smoke pot 15 times a day like every other day anyway. what's the point?


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"Often when order breeds habit, Choas breeds life"

Who is Choas?

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my problem is that 90% of the people that celebrate this dumbass idea are the ones that smoke pot 15 times a day like every other day anyway. what's the point?


what's up, narc? why a problem? what's it to you?


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It is also the start of the Earth Day and Arbor Day festivities. In Nebraska, Arbor Day is a governmental holiday.
I never celebrated 4/20, except for attending the Hempfest concerts we had at USD.

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kick your roommate in the balls. Celebrating this day as a "holiday" gives people that smoke pot a bad name. Just like hippies.


the redworm Wrote:
my problem is that 90% of the people that celebrate this dumbass idea are the ones that smoke pot 15 times a day like every other day anyway. what's the point?


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"Often when order breeds habit, Choas breeds life"

Who is Choas?


Yeah I can't spell, it's supposed to be chaos, Its a Henry Adams qoute and my favorite qoute ever.

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Another theory comes from Dylan's "Rainy Day Women #12 and 35"

12 x 35 = 420

Dumb, I know, but whatever.


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This holiday is lame. It's the same as any holiday in the U.S. in particular. It is used as an excuse to over indulge. "Oh, shit, it's May Day LET'S GET A KEG!"

"Sweet, it's the 5th anniversary of my little sister's wisdom teeth being pulled, better get a case of PBR."

"Oh, it's 4:20, let's toke".

Holidays, in the U.S., have become nothing more than a reason to go and get wasted. If you ask me, it's a pointless thing to look forward to. I know too many people that are just counting the minutes until friday night so they can rack up a $50 tab--which is probably conservative even for some Obners. :)-- at their favorite bar. It seems so sad and devoid of any meaning.


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This holiday is lame. It's the same as any holiday in the U.S. in particular. It is used as an excuse to over indulge. "Oh, shit, it's May Day LET'S GET A KEG!"


drinking non-mexican beer on may day is a sin.


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EDIT: "Let's get a keg of 'XX'"


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I don't even think that's possible, is it?

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Maybe in Mexico.


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