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I bet Flea knows the notes in a B flat scale. And then he slaps them!


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maybe he's dyslexic.


music theory is like weird math
even though I could rock the Calculus, and play music, I've always had trouble thinking of music as math.

playing bass is totally different from playing trombone.


and even mild dislexia will cut into the desire to figure out the new language.

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but yeah, a teenager crying over this is kind of silly.

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pollysix Wrote:
jewels santana Wrote:
maybe he's dyslexic.


music theory is like weird math
even though I could rock the Calculus, and play music, I've always had trouble thinking of music as math.

playing bass is totally different from playing trombone.


I thought they were pretty similar. And as far as music, you gotta be able to count to 2, 3, and 4, and you have to be able to divide by 2 and 3. Alot of stuff adds up to 9. It's a magic number in music. And that's about all the math there is in music. Seriously.

If the kid wants to get it, he may have a block, it might be not enough time with the instrument, it might be something he gets later in life. I responded really well to ball buster teachers, got me mad, motivated me. But to say I'm slightly OCD is like saying the war in Iraq is slightly retarded.

If he doesn't respond to ball busting, then don't bust his balls.

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pollysix Wrote:
jewels santana Wrote:
maybe he's dyslexic.


music theory is like weird math

Maybe he's mathlexic.

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definitely show him this thread. have a box of tissues ready first though.


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Maybe he doesn't care.

Maybe he's crying because he just realized his brother is Gauchebag.


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i disagree with the whole learn it by ear thing first.

If i learnt theory before rocking out, id be a much better musician today then if i went the other way. The other way is just an easy way out; fun shortcut.

I have a good ear a good feel for instruments and can learn stuff by hearing it very easily as opposed to reading, but if i had both skills i'd be much better off.

When i was younger i did all that theory music shit and hated it, and i told my parents that i didn't want to learn music. So they let me quit. Years later when i started palying stuff again i realise how much better i couldve been by now if they forced me to keep taking lessons, and i kinda hate them for it a little bit.

It's about finding a balance between the two, and i've never encountered such a balance with any music teacher i've had. Which is sad.

Still, if i had to choose between everyone learning it the boring/hard way and the easy/fun way, i'd have to choose the hard way. Screw around at home, learn the hard stuff during lessons.

It just makes for a better musician.

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All my training was on viola/violin/piano/sightsinging...

I can read guitar music but i'm slow. I can read bass charts and notation. I haven't had any lessons on guitar or bass, sometimes I wish i had, sometimes I'm glad I haven't. I am glad that I had a theory background to apply to it.

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When i was younger i did all that theory music shit and hated it, and i told my parents that i didn't want to learn music. So they let me quit. Years later when i started palying stuff again i realise how much better i couldve been by now if they forced me to keep taking lessons, and i kinda hate them for it a little bit.

Of course you say that now. In reality you would have just kept at it under force, getting more and more bitter about it, hating music more and more, and then you would have just refused to play. You wouldn't have just magically woken up one day thinking "Wow, mom and dad, you gave me a great gift by forcing me to keep at it! Now I really appreciate all those horrible, miserable hours spent learning to sightread! Thanks!" You know, 20/20-hindsight. And, by the way, it's not your parents fault that you quit.

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It just makes for a better musician.

And yet there are still plenty of shitty musicians who can sightread while there are plenty of great musicians who can't read at all. In other words, it depends on the person, of course. I'm just sayin'.

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i disagree with the whole learn it by ear thing first.

If i learnt theory before rocking out, id be a much better musician today then if i went the other way. The other way is just an easy way out; fun shortcut.

I have a good ear a good feel for instruments and can learn stuff by hearing it very easily as opposed to reading, but if i had both skills i'd be much better off.

When i was younger i did all that theory music shit and hated it, and i told my parents that i didn't want to learn music. So they let me quit. Years later when i started palying stuff again i realise how much better i couldve been by now if they forced me to keep taking lessons, and i kinda hate them for it a little bit.

It's about finding a balance between the two, and i've never encountered such a balance with any music teacher i've had. Which is sad.

Still, if i had to choose between everyone learning it the boring/hard way and the easy/fun way, i'd have to choose the hard way. Screw around at home, learn the hard stuff during lessons.

It just makes for a better musician.


exactly.

if he's going to do it he's going to it right.

kid is not going to use tablature on my watch, he's going to learn to play music.

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They make tab for trombone?

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i just emailed him a link to the thread. hopefully he'll read it and understand the whole thing better.

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