Easy.

Plaxico Burress and Eli Manning. Giants fans can't be too happy with them right now.

Rex has still only made 18 starts. He'll be so much better next year. Bears lost a close game to a better team.

On the other hand, the Giants did something nearly impossibly bad.

son of a bitch.

samuel was fucking awesome today.

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That was an entertaining game.

Really? Were they the better team? If you include their past success, yes. But the Bears were the better team in this game. Turnovers by a young QB turned this one around.

Anyway, I'm not complaining. A lot of people thought that after the Miami game the Bears would go 0-3 in this road trip. They're 2-1, and this was an AFC loss. Has nothing to do with their bid for home field in the NFC.

Great game, entertaining to watch. Went back and forth. A loss meant nothing to the Bears' goals for our season.

Bears played about as well as they could have in every area but QB. The Patriots are a better team right now because they get consistent play from their quarterback, and although the Bears have a better team defense, the Patriots have other things going for them. Grossman takes the Bears down several notches every time he has a shit game.

If Rex had a shit game, then so did Brady. You can't put this all on Grossman. He is our QB, he made some great throws today and moved the ball against a tough defense. We had almost 2 minutes to run the ball, and the first play call was to go deep? And it wasn't like it was a horrible throw, Davis made no play on the ball.

The Patriots are a great team, we hung with them the entire game. I'm not worried about this season. We're in great position for HFA, and that's all that matters right now.

goddamned grossman fucked it up. everything else was great, and then there was grossman.

Yeah, but you can put a lot of blame on Grossman, but the same can be put on the Bears Offense itself.

First 5 games; 5 turnovers

Last 6 games; 19 turnovers.

The only thing that the Patriots did poorly today was the amount of fumbles and turnovers they allowed (inteceptions from getting hit hard). I may be biased, but I think there is no question that the Patriots were the better team today. The Bears number one defense couldn't stop them from winning the game.

If I'm not mistaken, both Brady INT were ping-pong balls out of a receivers hands to Tillman? How is that kind of INT on Brady?

If you're not concerned about the Bears' play at QB against good teams, I don't know what to tell you. Something needs to happen. We cannot have another year of bye/home field loss on the second round.

and I agree chucking it deep against Asante on the first play was dumb as fucking shit, but it's not like Rex couldn't have checked it down to someone else.

So what is it? Grossman or our #1 defense? You're pussyfooting. Our D was put into tough situations all game and came up with turnover after turnover. If you think it was your O against our D that won the game, you're definately biased.

i saw that stat on tv too. 13 TO's coming into this game by grossman starting at the 6th game, then add in 3 more INTs today. i want to back the guyy, i really do, but fuck

guys grossman lost the game today, plain and simple. thread over.

Yeah, he lost the game. But you don't turn your back on him, "plain and simple." The guy is a good QB, he's young and he will improve. You let him go through the ups and downs and hopes he learns from the mistakes.

Griese isn't the answer. He isn't the short term (last year before injury 7 TD, 7 INT), and he certainly the fuck isn't the long term. The Bears finally have a good player at QB and no one can handle it. They're overreactionary and can't look into the future. We are 9 and f'n 2. A QB change isn't the answer.

well smartass, I think it was a combination of both. And, I was, in a way, agreeing with you that it wasn't just Grossman to blame. However, from what I saw there weren't any defensive scores on the Patriots side, so I guess the defense, despite coming up with "turnover after turnover", could not count on their offense to convert. I guess I would see that added to the times where the Patriots did convert and the higher score at the end of the game a good example of how the Patriots were the better team. Plus, it's not like the Patriots D got run all over as well.

I personally thought it was a great game. The first quarter through to the 1 yd TD by Mr. M was pretty damn exciting. Patriot turnover, Bears turnover, Patriots turnover, which is an example of how tough both these teams really are.

But yes, the interceptions were from the receivers not maintaining control, etc but unfortunately that goes as an INT for Brady's stats.

ROFL, hilarious. Don't act like you weren't sweating your ass off during that game. Like I said, it was a hell of a game to watch. And in the end, a loss meant nothing to us. We're still undefeated in the NFC, and homefield is still ours.

I think the dude has a lot of potential too, but someone needs to light a fire under his ass.

over 100 rating in September. Less than 90 in October. Less than 70 in November. I wouldn't consider that forward momentum.

never said that bears needed to change qb's, just that grossman is the reason that the bears lost today. if he doesn't right the ship, especially against good teams like the pats, things wont be good.

and to call a homerun bomb on the first play on a drive w/ under 2 minutes left was ridiculous.

The most important (and overlooked) part of this game was that our D-line wasn't able to get pressure on Brady.

the only thing i was sweating was the shitty calls made by the refs. still, a great game though.

I think we did get some pressure, we just weren't able to put him in the grass.