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School Bars Yearbook Photo of Student in Medieval Garb
By TAMAR LEWIN

Patrick Agin, a high school senior in Portsmouth, R.I., was surprised by his school’s refusal this fall to use a yearbook photograph of him dressed in medieval chain mail, with a broadsword over his shoulder.

“I didn’t think it would be that big a deal,” said Mr. Agin, a 17-year-old who attends Portsmouth High School. “I just really like the picture, and it’s one of the first good photos I’ve taken in a long time.”

Good or not, the school said, the picture ran afoul of its zero-tolerance weapons policy.

“Students wielding weapons is just not consistent with our existing policies or the mission of the school,” said Robert Littlefield, the principal. “I think the picture speaks for itself.”

It is not that simple. The Rhode Island branch of the American Civil Liberties Union has filed suit supporting Mr. Agin’s free-speech rights to use the photo, and both sides have agreed to take the matter to the state education commissioner.

The civil liberties organization said the school’s position took zero tolerance well past the point of common sense.

“It’s a perfect example of bureaucratic ridiculousness,” said Steven Brown, executive director of the Rhode Island branch of the organization. “We have had zero-tolerance cases before, one where a district punished a kindergartner for bringing in a butter knife, and another where a school suspended two first graders who brought a toy ray gun. But this case is even more ridiculous, since Patrick was not even bringing the weapon to school.”

The school’s position is particularly untenable, he said, given that the school mascot is a Revolutionary War soldier carrying a rifle.

“That’s an entirely different issue,” Mr. Littlefield said. “I don’t think anybody could reasonably construe a cartoon depiction of a soldier from 250 years ago as a threat to our educational environment.”

Mr. Agin and his mother, Heidi Farrington, say there is no threat in the chain mail, either, just self-expression.

“Historically, the kids have always been encouraged to take their pictures in a self-expressive fashion,” said Ms. Farrington, herself a graduate of the high school. “There was one kid last year on a skateboard, jumping off a set of stairs, and band members who pose with their instrument. I tried to talk to the superintendent, but I didn’t hear back from her for two weeks, several days after I’d gotten in touch with the A.C.L.U.”

Mr. Agin comes by his interest in chain mail naturally; his uncle makes chain mail, and his mother sells it at fairs. He also belongs to the Society for Creative Anachronism, which promotes re-enactments of medieval history.

The school has offered to let Mr. Agin buy a yearbook ad showing the photo. By itself, that takes the whole situation into the surreal, the civil liberties organization said.

“I guess they think it’s a danger to the school system on Page 6, but not on Page 26,” Mr. Brown said.

But the school said it had higher standards for editorial content than for advertising.

“We believe that our official publications are not necessarily an open public forum for students to express whatever it is they feel,” Mr. Littlefield said. “We see it as our official annual publication, and we reserve the right to exercise some reasonable editorial control over the content.”

The lawyer for the school, Stephen Robinson, said the yearbook’s advertising section had traditionally operated under less scrutiny.

“There have been two instances in the past of kids wanting to pose with weapons,” he said. “One was a Civil War re-enacter, with a musket, and another was a marksman, and in both cases, we let them take out ads.”


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So, if he had excluded the sword, it would've been ok?

Btw, isn't he dressed like the little guy from Legend of Zelda?


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Completely ridiculous.

What is wrong with the northeast? First no recess and dodgeball. NOW WE CAN'T DRESS UP AS ZELDA!??


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My best friend used to make his own broadswords, short swords and daggers.

But he's 6' 8" so no one really harrassed him about it.


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“..it’s one of the first good photos I’ve taken in a long time.”


I have to see those ones that he deems "not very good".


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He should be punished for cruelty to caterpillars.

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NOW WE CAN'T DRESS UP AS ZELDA!??

Zelda's a princess. That's a whole different ball-game right there.


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That's hilarious. This kid deserves to be knighted for submitting this as his yearbook picture.

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Wait...are we to assume that this is actually stacey's brother?


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Sketchristmas Wrote:
Hegel-HoHoHo's Wrote:
NOW WE CAN'T DRESS UP AS ZELDA!??

Zelda's a princess. That's a whole different ball-game right there.

yeah, the little guy is link. duh.


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“There have been two instances in the past of kids wanting to pose with weapons,” he said. “One was a Civil War re-enacter, with a musket, and another was a marksman, and in both cases, we let them take out ads.”


Come on... what kind of damage is this nerdy kid going to do with that huge sword? I hesitate to even call that thing a weapon with him behind it.

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Chainmail? Well played, lad!
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The chain mail is obviously of Saracen origin while the sword is that of a German Landsknecht.

Also that puter tankard is clearly of 18th to 19th century design, well beyond what is generally regarded as medieval.

I mean really! They were quite right to ban this hotch potch of inaccuracy!

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this is the generation that said, "regular old head shots are nearly embarassing enough"

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Grinch Platte Wrote:
He should be punished for cruelty to caterpillars.


Seriously. Bastard son of Eugene Levy.

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“There have been two instances in the past of kids wanting to pose with weapons,” he said. “One was a Civil War re-enacter, with a musket, and another was a marksman, and in both cases, we let them take out ads.”


Come on... what kind of damage is this nerdy kid going to do with that huge sword? I hesitate to even call that thing a weapon with him behind it.


He's in front of most of it, i think that's the only we he could balance it. :D

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He's cute... in a Munster kinda way.

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harry Wrote:
He's cute... in a Munster kinda way.


You would have been in love with me when I was dungeon-dragoned.

Now, not so much, with the chainmail.

Looks a bit silly at church choir and at the volunteer fire brigade.


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Is he using pink lip gloss?

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Looks a bit silly at church choir and at the volunteer fire brigade.


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I needed to bump this thread, after reading this article.
He won his case and gets to have the photo in the yearbook.

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Hegel-HoHoHo's Wrote:
NOW WE CAN'T DRESS UP AS ZELDA!??

Zelda's a princess. That's a whole different ball-game right there.


haha...

Seriously, Joey. Get with it.

(I think he just let the thumb ring out of the bag)

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